i hope i can explain myself. i've tried searching on tribe but many of the threads go off on tangents. i'd like to know fcbd-ats answer.
in my notes from gs when executing an arabic turning gradually (around self) with either arms 1 & arms 2 i've noted that it only turns CCW (counterclockwise). however, with arms above head or at sides one may turn CCW or CW (clockwise). will someone confirm this for me?
thanks,
laurie
in my notes from gs when executing an arabic turning gradually (around self) with either arms 1 & arms 2 i've noted that it only turns CCW (counterclockwise). however, with arms above head or at sides one may turn CCW or CW (clockwise). will someone confirm this for me?
thanks,
laurie
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Mon, October 1, 2007 - 7:18 PMhi laurie,
tiana's mom here...i'm assuming that arm 1 and arm 2 is the terminology taught in gs, so i'm hoping i read this right.
i'm pretty sure it's only ccw with arms 1 and/or 2; but cw/ccw with arms up or at sides. we don't turn cw when arms are in 1 and/or 2.
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Mon, October 1, 2007 - 9:24 PMthanks! the part about "we don't turn cw when arms are in 1 and/or 2" makes things clearer for me. it applies to pivot bumps too--which i knew for sure. -
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Wed, October 3, 2007 - 12:07 PMOOPS! now i'm re-thinking this...if arm 2 is left arm up, right arm bent and if front of body; we do turn cw in a pivot bump, and i "think" we've also done it in a slow arabic turn. can someone from the troupe please clarify this? NOW i know why i don't usually join in on the threads...duh -
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Wed, October 3, 2007 - 12:55 PMAs far as I know, there's no set arm-directional set in stone. It is easier to turn CCW with the left arm out and right arm up and vice versa, but you could also pivot with an arm sweep w/floreos. -
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Mon, November 26, 2007 - 5:25 PMSo Pivot Bumps can turn either direction? -
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Thu, December 6, 2007 - 8:59 AMpivot bumps can turn either direction as well, but with limitations. Pivot bumps normally go over the left shoulder and turn gradually, both with arms 1 and 2, but there is an exception where you turn over the right shoulder but this is only with arms one ( left arm up, right arm out to the side) and is always in 4 counts.
This is for pivot bumps though, and the thread is about arabics so don't confuse with what is written above. this is just what I understood from the GS that I took in September. I was unsure about this too so I asked loads of questions about the pivot bumps possibilities so I think this is the right explanation.
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Thu, December 6, 2007 - 11:09 AMNot to tangent further, but I don't remember a timing being imposed on turning in either direction of pivot bumps--that is other than using your phrasing effectively, which usually means some range of 4/6/8 counts. Just that CCW hip bump turns are not very common, and they usually try to avoid doing CW then CCW pivot bumps right next to one another. As a result of the limitation on variation of the CW pivot bump, when watching them do it (on video and in person), it was often used as an accent after another move, which called for it to be more swift. But I don't remember anyone saying it *had* to be any number of counts.
Sandi the Magnificent? Wendy the Wonderdancer? -
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Thu, December 6, 2007 - 11:28 AMIt is, in fact, always 4 counts when you turn it over the right shoulder because it's kind of akward and it's hard to watch each other in that one.
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Thu, December 6, 2007 - 11:37 AMThanks for clearing that up Meg! -
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Wed, March 5, 2008 - 3:11 AMApart from the Arabic 1-2-3 or Arabic Orbit, does FC still perform the Arabic with arms at shoulder height and do you ever pivot with the arms in this position?
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Wed, March 5, 2008 - 9:00 AMWe generally don't do the Arabic with arms at shoulder height unless we are doing an orbit or the 123, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.
Also, you can pivot with the arms in that position if you want, but you'll find that in a group, it's not advisable, because you'll knock arms with your partners. We usually bring the arms up overhead before pivoting or fading to avoid colliding. -
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Re: arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually
Wed, March 5, 2008 - 11:27 AMJust to add, there's also the senario of balancing baskets or swords. W/baskets, we'll keep the arms out, but with swords its easier to bring the arms up on either side of them, rt behind/lft in front, or rt behind/lft out at position #2.
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