http://ats.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#50ef43e6-ef0e-4e64-974e-61da2aea3a49 I've been doing that diagonal line thing one in some of my classes and just called it Two Lines because I didn't know if it had a proper name. :) And to answer the earlier question, yes, it was "Sassy Sweet" because we step up into their faces, shoulders a shimmyin' (Sheesh, when did I get an Appalachian hillbilly persona?) and then drop arms and be sweetness and sugar. My sugar may have an black ant in it, but sweet nonetheless. :D Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:35:34 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#50ef43e6-ef0e-4e64-974e-61da2aea3a49 Valizan 2009-06-08T05:35:34Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#a1e28064-287e-45d9-a576-4463b88089c5 Well, it's two duets dueling each other. Hence the name. I think its supposed to be Dueling Duets, plural, rather than singular. We don't usually do it with more than duets. We've done the trio diagonals, like in SF Beledi during Ishwini Fik - both trios in performance angle, each diagonal capable to lead their own moves or sync up - but that tends to get fairly choreographed. Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:45:11 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#a1e28064-287e-45d9-a576-4463b88089c5 Sandi 2009-06-07T17:45:11Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#6ae62f8d-f7c9-4a35-ba4e-6ea52614a76d I was wondering what makes a dueling duet a duet? Duets are two people dancing. We've done this with three people each in two different groups. Its the same concept but with more than two people per group. I'm just wondering the true definition of what a dueling duet is. I think its so beautiful and when we did it, I had a few people come up to me with compliments on how they liked the delayed effect it gives from one group to the next. Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:53:10 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#6ae62f8d-f7c9-4a35-ba4e-6ea52614a76d Diana 2009-06-07T14:53:10Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#99181e10-695c-4d1b-8133-b5c08a05bba1 Yep. Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:10:01 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#99181e10-695c-4d1b-8133-b5c08a05bba1 Sandi 2009-03-06T03:10:01Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#08bfe5ba-2a75-458a-bec6-9e0694f8c9c1 LOL! Shoulder shimmy hip drop, is that it? Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:08:27 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#08bfe5ba-2a75-458a-bec6-9e0694f8c9c1 "Shay" 2009-03-06T03:08:27Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#2e6379cb-3fdf-402b-af2b-520ef971182f From what I remember of Valizan telling me, the Sassy Sweet Combo is the Shoulder Shimmy Combo. It's first sassy, then sweet. ;D That's so cute. Is that right Val? Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:05:36 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#2e6379cb-3fdf-402b-af2b-520ef971182f Sandi 2009-03-06T03:05:36Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#5554bca3-c5c5-4e1b-b609-0a49eaf5ae2c Came across this old thread while refreshing my memory of what I learned of the dueling duets this past week at the studio. What is the Sassy Sweet Combo? Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:59:00 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#5554bca3-c5c5-4e1b-b609-0a49eaf5ae2c "Shay" 2009-03-06T00:59:00Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#d93136f1-2cbe-4a79-ac4d-2672478aa3a5 Clicking the "Send" button on my Vol. 8 order form right now! Tue, 29 May 2007 03:01:56 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#d93136f1-2cbe-4a79-ac4d-2672478aa3a5 Sharon 2007-05-29T03:01:56Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#da99ff20-2d37-411f-ac28-8795b2de58f9 Miss Sooz, I'm guessing it hasn't even been considered yet... but y'know I sent in my electronic order form for FCBD Volume 8: Fantastic Formations & Carolena's Coolest Creative Combos. They usually don't make me wait this long... ;-)))) You're lucky to have access to Carolena and FatChance, Sooz. I won't get to meet/study with her until September. So Sooz... Here's the game... :) If you were putting out said DVD (FCBD V8: FF&CCCC), what would you add that isn't on any of the others already? The Sassy Sweet Combo would be my first choice. Just cause its a classic. V. Yeh... I think I'm a groupie too. :) Mon, 28 May 2007 23:06:49 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#da99ff20-2d37-411f-ac28-8795b2de58f9 Valizan 2007-05-28T23:06:49Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#3ab967de-095b-4371-b33c-8affa30ba001 YES Valizan!!! I've pre-ordered my copy already and it hasn't even been filmed!!! I'm such a groupie! Mon, 28 May 2007 22:32:16 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#3ab967de-095b-4371-b33c-8affa30ba001 SOOZ 2007-05-28T22:32:16Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#2ac0ec37-6858-4572-9edd-767c195b6ce0 Yes, it's a challenge, but opens up for so much possibility and creativity. Keeps us on our toes! *;} Mon, 28 May 2007 16:27:03 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#2ac0ec37-6858-4572-9edd-767c195b6ce0 Sandi 2007-05-28T16:27:03Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#563da4c8-b86b-43e8-9d0b-c124f5da0a3d Watches YouTube clip... HolyFreakamoley! That just looks like WAY too much fun! But also a lot of work, because you'd really have too concentrate to keep A) from following the wrong leader. B) one bar behind... or forward. But you'd definitely need music that held to two repetitions so that the second duet could keep up, right? So that'll all be on FCBD Volume 8: More Moves & Cool Combos. Chico Crossover, Duelling Duets... :)))) (Yeh, I know... but I figure if I keep wishing out loud, someday my dreams may come true...:))))) Mon, 28 May 2007 04:58:48 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#563da4c8-b86b-43e8-9d0b-c124f5da0a3d Valizan 2007-05-28T04:58:48Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#889d4e3c-e543-4c0c-acec-5c2d9850980c Magical is what that was! Sun, 27 May 2007 20:01:20 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#889d4e3c-e543-4c0c-acec-5c2d9850980c SOOZ 2007-05-27T20:01:20Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#35db7d51-c4f6-4a4d-981e-7bc1246ea8f4 So did you dance dueling duets at TF? Is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHliBrA2fsA an example? Sun, 27 May 2007 18:44:42 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#35db7d51-c4f6-4a4d-981e-7bc1246ea8f4 Sharon 2007-05-27T18:44:42Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#c0e10ff3-1866-44fb-ac90-0d1ee80905c1 i could see that. it is similiar in that way, the movement of the two lines is different. but in dueling duets, both duets are facing center, with the lead being on the left. the leaders of the duets can switch places, or each duet can switch leads. we did a choreo a couple of years ago where we started in a quartet, faded the quartet, turned in toward the center, and it became dueling duets. so far i haven't seen any video on youtube of a dueling duet. and i don't have anything that's in a form where i could upload it. Fri, 25 May 2007 05:26:46 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#c0e10ff3-1866-44fb-ac90-0d1ee80905c1 principessa crankypants 2007-05-25T05:26:46Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#32dd34a1-293f-4636-9ab6-8a314e54a026 The only reason I made that connection, Miss Wendy, is because the two lines weren't in synch. It looked definitely like the second line was purposely a bar back in the music. So now I really want to see what this looks like. Anyone find the YouTube clip yet? Fri, 25 May 2007 04:58:03 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#32dd34a1-293f-4636-9ab6-8a314e54a026 Valizan 2007-05-25T04:58:03Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#39c6fdf9-9cf4-4f8a-95d4-2158fbe073bc hey valizan, y'know, i don't think the concept of dueling duets had come up when beledi was made. of if it had, it was still fairly new. there are no dueling duets in beledi. there is one formation with two diagonal lines, carolena led one, and karen may have led the other. :-) Fri, 25 May 2007 04:43:18 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#39c6fdf9-9cf4-4f8a-95d4-2158fbe073bc principessa crankypants 2007-05-25T04:43:18Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#807e49ad-308b-4883-8fca-947d79e4f46b Wendy, you ladies have Duelling Duets on the San Francisco Beledi DVD at one point, no? Karen was on the right duet, I think Carolena was leading. Fri, 25 May 2007 03:44:38 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#807e49ad-308b-4883-8fca-947d79e4f46b Valizan 2007-05-25T03:44:38Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#176dfce0-f115-488a-a25e-99adfea091e9 I know I video'd their performance at Tribal Fest, with Carolena's permission of course, and I know some others were videoing as well. Check youtube--there are already performances from this year's Tribal Fest up already! Fri, 25 May 2007 02:55:06 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#176dfce0-f115-488a-a25e-99adfea091e9 SOOZ 2007-05-25T02:55:06Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#c8cf94f0-3c15-4f15-a15e-2e8c84839114 Thanks for the explaination ladies, it all makes perfect sense. Really creative. I'll be sharing that with my students too. Dueling Duets, great name. Thank you, thank you! :) Thu, 24 May 2007 05:10:58 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#c8cf94f0-3c15-4f15-a15e-2e8c84839114 Kathy 2007-05-24T05:10:58Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#04afc41d-f56a-462e-810d-8bdbb60b5e69 >the duet on stage right is following< the lead of the following duet is the dancer on the left, just like in normal lead and follow. also...the two leads can change positions and the two duets can change within their own duet. whoa, that was hard to describe... Thu, 24 May 2007 01:09:41 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#04afc41d-f56a-462e-810d-8bdbb60b5e69 Mallory 2007-05-24T01:09:41Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#bad2a816-8ab6-40ba-9a2a-d6c79ad40849 hey Kathy, I imagine you saw this show in person, but I thought I'd ask anyway: Does video of this show exist? love. ali Thu, 24 May 2007 00:52:59 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#bad2a816-8ab6-40ba-9a2a-d6c79ad40849 Ali 2007-05-24T00:52:59Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#29eea43d-9299-485c-a6cf-ea93e3101971 the inward facing duets is called dueling duets. and we did plan that ahead of time, there's no cue for it. with the dueling duets, the lead is the lead of the duet on the left (if you are onstage facing the audience, that is.) the duet on stage right is following, but has the option to hold a move for a few counts before switching to the new move done by the lead on the left. you can vary the movements, but then sync both duets up at various times. i hope that makes sense :-) Thu, 24 May 2007 00:47:05 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#29eea43d-9299-485c-a6cf-ea93e3101971 principessa crankypants 2007-05-24T00:47:05Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#f10ed591-384c-4634-9ec0-13b3108bfc00 FCBD had some really creative formations in the Tribal Fest 07 set. I've been trying to figure out the formation where you moved from a 4-dancer stagger into a formation where there were 2 inward facing duets (hips at an angle to the audience). Is there a cue for that? Once the stagger changed into the inward facing duets, it looked like there was a cannon of movements going on. It was really dynamic to watch. :) Thu, 24 May 2007 00:09:02 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/3a04f375-cc37-4f28-aab5-4a34570de4c3#f10ed591-384c-4634-9ec0-13b3108bfc00 Kathy 2007-05-24T00:09:02Z