http://ats.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#26ffd74a-035d-46cb-ba05-2050f7960644 in some meditations I have done, they included visualizingthe chakra points opening like blossoming flowers... from what I have learned, in the moving meditation the "lotus" palms begin at heart level, and rotate as it is raised above the head, to me it seems to be mirroring opening yourself up to the dance, allowing the creative energies to flow. I also feel some days like I am holding the lotus up as an offering, to dedicate my dance to honor the divine... some days I feel like I am holding up my lotus like a goblet, asking divine energy to be poured into me, to fuel my dance and life (my tribal classes are late evening, after a full day of chasing 2 toddlers, yet I always come home humming wiith energy and can't get to bed for a while after...) Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:25:18 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#26ffd74a-035d-46cb-ba05-2050f7960644 Zalea 2009-07-27T01:25:18Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#2dcdec70-4551-42ff-8266-0f926a99276c it's worth...Sharon. I totally get that. Lotus has so much significance, if it touches you in some special way...that's what it means. Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:47:00 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#2dcdec70-4551-42ff-8266-0f926a99276c Etta 2009-06-15T16:47:00Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#8b4b19f4-bae4-41be-a375-ca9f41c59809 This is not the official Carolena version, but because the lotus and then touching the floor follows the part about the space that we dance in, and because the gesture for the space that we dance in sort of includes the 4 directions, I always use the lotus and then touching the floor to recognize the space above and the space below. Then the ears for the music, then the floor AGAIN to honor the Earth. I KNOW that's not the way Carolena explains it, but it makes more sense to me that way. For what it's worth. Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:06:20 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#8b4b19f4-bae4-41be-a375-ca9f41c59809 Sharon 2009-06-11T17:06:20Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#a4eb294a-9fa0-453a-b827-bec617a1e5e3 You mean this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sYHTvAFURk Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:29:54 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#a4eb294a-9fa0-453a-b827-bec617a1e5e3 Ottavina 2009-06-08T20:29:54Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#3392a663-5dbe-4b63-9da8-f44e74d8744c on the subject of moving meditation, i was in sf, a couple of months ago, at fcbd and had the thrill of being in the level 3 saturday class and carolena taught. she did the "full on" puja, not just the one taught in the videos. i had seen the puja done on some of the fcbd youtube performances. i think it was a performance with deviyani. is it the milwaukee performance? does someone know which youtube vidoe i'm referring to? i really want to learn it and pass along to my level 3 students. Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:20:11 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#3392a663-5dbe-4b63-9da8-f44e74d8744c laurie♥ 2009-06-08T20:20:11Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#b8541494-b82f-4014-b2e8-c999ab874c59 Reading this was a timely reminder of why I dance in the first place.. thank you. Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:47:39 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#b8541494-b82f-4014-b2e8-c999ab874c59 Kylie 2009-06-08T14:47:39Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#3c5da68e-57b9-4a59-acc2-b380bc8761b0 Also cool is the idea that the lotus plunges downward to be nourished by the mud, but not dirtied from it. Great imagery for a bad day from which one can learn something, but not be dragged down by... Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:11:12 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#3c5da68e-57b9-4a59-acc2-b380bc8761b0 Ottavina 2009-06-08T14:11:12Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#6b5f1d42-7b9e-4e13-806d-dc636c7a6c15 My favourite mantra for when I meditate is 'Ohm mani padme hum' (hope I've spelled that correctly...been a long time since I've actually seen it in print)...but from my understanding, it means 'Hail to the jewel at the center of the lotus', of which the jewel is our heart and spirit...might give a bit of insight into the significance for the use in dance. *shrugs* Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:24:18 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#6b5f1d42-7b9e-4e13-806d-dc636c7a6c15 Rebekah 2009-06-07T20:24:18Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#8e7ccc89-8b52-42f5-9941-d2a627950185 I loved how she said the lotus had to rise for the light, and recoil to the dark to rest and be fed -- the balance of life. Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:14:50 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#8e7ccc89-8b52-42f5-9941-d2a627950185 Leslie 2009-06-07T14:14:50Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#60fdee4d-13d8-488a-b984-da9a2f17ce6b She explains it in the Art of Belly Dance: Step 6: "Next is the Lotus Blossom, which symbolizes the ongoing nature of life....." Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:23:05 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#60fdee4d-13d8-488a-b984-da9a2f17ce6b Traci 2009-06-07T04:23:05Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#8202c223-11dd-40ab-a409-a3642a5c3253 I thought it symbolizes life. I'm pretty sure Carolena explains it on one of the videos. If I track it down I'll post it. Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:17:06 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#8202c223-11dd-40ab-a409-a3642a5c3253 laurie♥ 2009-06-07T04:17:06Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#fc8a0961-8c62-49b6-8be8-2db9bb1eb217 I remember her explaining it and this is what I wrote down in my notebook at the GS: The lotus is a flower that can go down into darkness but needs to also come up into the light. If it stays in the light too long it can burn. So, it goes back down into the dark mud at night to get nutrients and revive itself. Its like a balance. And that the water represents conscienceless. That's all I really have about it but I loved how she explained that to us. It gave that move so much meaning and it was quite beautiful :) Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:34:33 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#fc8a0961-8c62-49b6-8be8-2db9bb1eb217 Diana 2009-06-06T20:34:33Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#c3634f02-5b69-4a36-bbc1-415535599eb0 I think Jesse and Phillipa say the lotus is for enlightenment. Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:59:13 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#c3634f02-5b69-4a36-bbc1-415535599eb0 Alicia 2009-06-06T09:59:13Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#47814b69-252c-4e9c-8d00-00796bb6d64b Ya know, I remember hearing Carolena explain this as an anecdote about the lotus, but not specifically in the moving mediation, I would love to hear if this is significant in that context as well, or if there is another additional meaning there... Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:07:09 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#47814b69-252c-4e9c-8d00-00796bb6d64b "Shay" 2009-06-06T09:07:09Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#59323646-54cb-4c71-bb55-e9331360a818 Well, I'm not sure about the significance for dance, but I do know that the lotus is a symbol of beauty from adversity...the lotus flower grows in the deep muck of swamps and ponds...in fact, the deeper the mud, the more beautiful the flower...so it is a symbol of overcoming adversity and letting the beauty shine thru... Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:47:12 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#59323646-54cb-4c71-bb55-e9331360a818 Rebekah 2009-06-06T05:47:12Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#fc3c0116-9c11-4f43-93af-e12944a7d9df I've already posted to the FCBD tribe, but.... Could anyone help me with this? Carolena has explained the significance of a lot of the movements in the moving meditation ie: the space you dance on, your ancestors, your teachers etc.....but I'm not sure I remember an explination of the lotus. In egyptian lore,it stands for creation and rebirth. Is this the cas in the meditation or is there another significance? Thanks! Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:22:48 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/7e3db044-7a9b-490e-b36e-abc7a0067f23#fc3c0116-9c11-4f43-93af-e12944a7d9df Marta 2009-06-06T05:22:48Z