http://ats.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#a527261c-608b-4c76-b07e-1778caa3cb6c re the cue for this move ... i learned the move as Sandi describes it, along with a cue where the horizontal left arm rotates slightly, turning palm more upwards. So it begins with a normal double bump, then cue (left arm rotates so palm is turned upward - when the arm is down only, eg on the 1 and 2 counts!) and the next set flips on the one and finishes 4 cts, then flips back, continuing till move is changed. Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:01:19 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#a527261c-608b-4c76-b07e-1778caa3cb6c violet 2008-06-28T11:01:19Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#3e384090-45d0-4ff5-bd44-f9cedc333772 Cool cool! It'll be good to have an actual person showing me :) Sun, 25 May 2008 13:38:44 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#3e384090-45d0-4ff5-bd44-f9cedc333772 Diana 2008-05-25T13:38:44Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#da06dadc-e21a-4126-9eee-b771bbe6fdc0 Miss Di, I'll show you when I see you in Erie. :) Sun, 25 May 2008 07:53:44 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#da06dadc-e21a-4126-9eee-b771bbe6fdc0 Valizan 2008-05-25T07:53:44Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#77ef02f3-8ddb-40d4-b7fe-a88dbbd3a7d4 it moves around the same way as a pivot bump, except you're still moving the right foot toe-heel for 2 counts each, you're just propelling yourself around at the same time. Sat, 24 May 2008 15:33:26 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#77ef02f3-8ddb-40d4-b7fe-a88dbbd3a7d4 principessa crankypants 2008-05-24T15:33:26Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#74a33b77-5266-47c2-b2e3-b3a08a6e2ab4 Yeah....I guess I was wondering more how it moved and got around than anything. Sat, 24 May 2008 15:06:03 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#74a33b77-5266-47c2-b2e3-b3a08a6e2ab4 Diana 2008-05-24T15:06:03Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#526763a9-88d7-4398-9ee1-eca1dc6c6b86 Hey Miss Di, I went and took a look at the Pura performance and they aren't doing halfsies on those, it looked more like Choo choo's that pivoted one third each time until it came back to front. Fri, 23 May 2008 23:28:45 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#526763a9-88d7-4398-9ee1-eca1dc6c6b86 Valizan 2008-05-23T23:28:45Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#14b7a3af-4fb7-4da4-a848-86173c361dc1 Those are all Double Bumps pivoting. Not flips. Ya, I don't think we have any handy videos of the flip for ya. Sorry! Fri, 23 May 2008 19:33:47 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#14b7a3af-4fb7-4da4-a848-86173c361dc1 Sandi 2008-05-23T19:33:47Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#576cb698-f8e4-43b8-a83a-9e0d14bb4bee Here are a few links to where I saw it being done and it looks awesome! Here at 2:24 http://youtube.com/watch?v=fQ3YOPot7Yo Here at 0:11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fFj6EAC4F0 And here at 3:31 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHliBrA2fsA&feature=related Fri, 23 May 2008 18:59:42 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#576cb698-f8e4-43b8-a83a-9e0d14bb4bee Diana 2008-05-23T18:59:42Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#99ca6488-e018-474c-801b-fe206a47cea4 ::goes off and tries flipping on the one (hey... simmer down, keep it polite!):: Oh! Verrah noice and you get all four counts, back and front. Fri, 23 May 2008 18:45:18 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#99ca6488-e018-474c-801b-fe206a47cea4 Valizan 2008-05-23T18:45:18Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#30130477-a80b-4728-a383-b5320e44c267 Nevermind my last sentence, Sandi answered the question. :) Fri, 23 May 2008 18:42:06 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#30130477-a80b-4728-a383-b5320e44c267 Valizan 2008-05-23T18:42:06Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#143a441d-45ce-4c1f-8567-b733ccbdbe5d Hm. Okay. I'll try to transcribe my mental process (Warning: Contents may splash about and taste like cola) Go through regular double bump When you are ready (ready? READY NOW?! ;-))): You do your two bumps forward on 1-2, but you change angle slightly to the left on the and before the one. This is your cue. Finish your back count, 3-4. On one-two you do your bumps forward. On 3-4 you pivot on the left leg to turn halfway, landing on four. The ever important "And..." is the pause before you go again. Arms on this are similar to Double back, except they have Bumpy arms ;-)))). On the pivot (3 I think...) right arm sweeps 'round with the pivot while left sweeps up in back to get that lovely spiralling effect when you turn. On one, you raise right arm strong like you normally would in DB. In your version, Principessa Majora, is the flip on the "And?" That would really make this move superfast, no? Fri, 23 May 2008 18:41:14 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#143a441d-45ce-4c1f-8567-b733ccbdbe5d Valizan 2008-05-23T18:41:14Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#2b76953b-91d7-4772-8d09-e0ce554b6afa That is... you're flipping to the back on the one and finish the 4 cts of the double bump. Then flip around to the front again on "one". BAM! Fri, 23 May 2008 18:36:22 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#2b76953b-91d7-4772-8d09-e0ce554b6afa Sandi 2008-05-23T18:36:22Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#5fdad003-f359-4025-91cd-ff2194803f9a I don't know that there is actually one in a video-Diane said she's seen it in some videos, so it would be great if she could post a link. Basically, you do one double bump (4 full counts) facing front, then it flips to facing back for 4 cts. I hope you can visualize that. The only video I know of that it's on is an old Ethnic Dance Festival performance, and I have no way to get it up on the internet. Fri, 23 May 2008 17:56:00 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#5fdad003-f359-4025-91cd-ff2194803f9a principessa crankypants 2008-05-23T17:56:00Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#8a5f63d3-9792-419e-9fc6-def03cf9c570 You want one? I figured one out yesterday. But I can someone post a link so I can see what YOU are calling a DBhalf turn. Fri, 23 May 2008 17:35:25 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#8a5f63d3-9792-419e-9fc6-def03cf9c570 Valizan 2008-05-23T17:35:25Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#3f7f777b-7132-4b50-920b-7ac40038036a see, that's the thing. The half turn is more of a flip. In the Cues and Tattoos video, it's a pivoting double bump. The first pivot Carolena does is fast, because she took a longer step, but then you can see that it doesn't flip back around to the front right away. In a half turn, it would be a very crisp flip to the back, then flip to the front. Funny, I was just thinking the other day about how I'd love it if there were a cue for this so we could use it more often. I like the way it looks. Fri, 23 May 2008 16:39:42 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#3f7f777b-7132-4b50-920b-7ac40038036a principessa crankypants 2008-05-23T16:39:42Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#0a478c8c-824d-4548-a717-fea6526db721 I like the word flip better :)~ Fri, 23 May 2008 16:04:18 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#0a478c8c-824d-4548-a717-fea6526db721 Diana 2008-05-23T16:04:18Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#599245df-a691-47f3-85e6-a8629ec1abb4 hey Diana, I hope I didn't give you wrong information-I looked at the cues and tattooes video, and there is no double bump half turn in it. Have you seen it in another video? It's funny, I've done it, but never thought of it as a half turn, I always, in my own head, called it a 'flip'. But it really is a half turn. And like Sandi said, there is no cue, so you'd talk about it beforehand. Fri, 23 May 2008 15:41:50 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#599245df-a691-47f3-85e6-a8629ec1abb4 principessa crankypants 2008-05-23T15:41:50Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#9bff5f68-ac35-4cb8-b569-828c854c1dd5 Thanks Sandi :) I've seen you girls do it in a bunch of videos on youtube and it seems like it would definitely be a good idea to discuss doing it before actually doing it :) Fri, 23 May 2008 14:09:00 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#9bff5f68-ac35-4cb8-b569-828c854c1dd5 Diana 2008-05-23T14:09:00Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#58398081-c2a3-482e-b23b-fde2b7e1afc6 So after posting earlier this afternoon (yesterday for many of you) I HAD to go try it. :) It lives!!! MWAAAhahahahaha ....coughcoughdamnpollencoughcough ... Mwahha... oh fergit it. Fri, 23 May 2008 07:58:49 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#58398081-c2a3-482e-b23b-fde2b7e1afc6 Valizan 2008-05-23T07:58:49Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#46e9be01-f838-4855-9cd8-437aa48b0e6f The only time we use a Double Bump half turn is if we discuss it beforehand. It's not a standard move. Fri, 23 May 2008 07:50:32 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#46e9be01-f838-4855-9cd8-437aa48b0e6f Sandi 2008-05-23T07:50:32Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#80de6961-a5a5-45fd-b264-c6b08bfe8036 Per the other discussion going on, we now call it a double bump, and there is no half turn with a double bump. Ha ha! and now is the part where I get to use the FAQ tribe! http://ats.tribe.net/thread/e53f2b4d-2499-43cb-ad2f-e488f6990412 halfway down is a description of the 'cue' for the SB half turn-it's a more emphatic gesture with the hands and arms, something you learn to recognize with time. For more info on the hip bump family, see here for links: http://tribes.tribe.net/atsfaq/thread/3fabca79-c049-4bdd-8b7a-47545014bfa1 Thu, 22 May 2008 16:56:07 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#80de6961-a5a5-45fd-b264-c6b08bfe8036 principessa crankypants 2008-05-22T16:56:07Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#d21700fa-5a42-4d43-b7a9-6cd000fece71 The double bump has a half turn?! It's not on my grand list of steps from GS & workshops, but that might just be us not having picked it up. The single bump's 1/2 turn starts with a 1/4 turn, and since you don't do 1/4 turns with that step, you know the 1/2 is coming. I would assume a double bump 1/2 turn started the same? It seems like it'd be pretty awkward, though. Thu, 22 May 2008 16:56:00 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#d21700fa-5a42-4d43-b7a9-6cd000fece71 april 2008-05-22T16:56:00Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#4a73fcd0-410f-4c84-bc44-4882d0a1d1c8 There is a half turn on a choo choo double? I know there is the single bump pivot turn from Volume 7. But I'm interested in knowing how to half turn a choo choo double mesself! Thu, 22 May 2008 16:53:22 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#4a73fcd0-410f-4c84-bc44-4882d0a1d1c8 Valizan 2008-05-22T16:53:22Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#995c4c7a-20ca-412e-ba7e-5c206842b79b I totally forgot to add the part of the question.....how to cue for the half turn. Wow. So....how do you cue a choo choo double half turn? There...that's better :) Thu, 22 May 2008 16:29:45 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#995c4c7a-20ca-412e-ba7e-5c206842b79b Diana 2008-05-22T16:29:45Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#f83aaf94-b8ed-46ee-b570-51e045205d9e I meant the choo choo double. I learned it with a different name and though I tell my students the proper name, I fall back into the wrong name. So sorry. Thu, 22 May 2008 16:28:22 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#f83aaf94-b8ed-46ee-b570-51e045205d9e Diana 2008-05-22T16:28:22Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#3b62d05d-9a3a-46c2-b314-a18e6bf12aa6 Are you talking about going into the double bump, or travelling with it? Going into it with the arm position is fairly obvious if you transition from another step that looks different - that is the only cue I know for it. It's particularly easy to catch & seems to flow nicely out of hip bump and any step with the arms both raised. It's hard to catch & looks really similar to Sununda & Double Back. Travelling with this step is so slow that it seems really easy to follow, with the angle of the body changing like it does with plain old choo choo. Thu, 22 May 2008 16:01:41 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#3b62d05d-9a3a-46c2-b314-a18e6bf12aa6 april 2008-05-22T16:01:41Z http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#ec8bf345-5b9e-4afa-b1ed-aa48ffe64d4b Is there one and if there is, what is it? It seems so fast! :) Thu, 22 May 2008 13:43:07 GMT http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/82c25b15-8012-48c9-9221-649e0f06dd0e#ec8bf345-5b9e-4afa-b1ed-aa48ffe64d4b Diana 2008-05-22T13:43:07Z