Tribe.net. Local Connections rhiannyn http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#acd622a8-4ea8-41a0-bb83-aabcf81bf912 2012-06-27T05:30:29Z 2012-06-27T05:30:29Z

when i was doing fusion with Lava, she taught us the shimmy on the down beat and the maya with a 'shimmy on the down' overlay as two distinct moves... somewhat difficult, but hella fun :)

rhiannyn 2012-06-27T05:30:29Z Wendy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#14fb8371-59d5-4702-ac9a-1b3fcf696c1b 2012-06-27T03:03:32Z 2012-06-27T03:03:32Z

It's not an alternating shimmy, Barbara, it's a 3/4 shimmy.

Wendy 2012-06-27T03:03:32Z Nancy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#753a68fd-5f3a-47c1-8e65-50ff2a3e8b1d 2012-06-27T01:15:42Z 2012-06-27T01:15:42Z

Hmm, hope it works to add a comment to a now 2-year-old thread! I've been trying to get clearer on ATS Reverse Shimmy. Turns out that although it is covered in the prior editon of vol. 4 (under the heading "Layering"), it seems to have been omitted from the 2010 edition. In any case, here's Anita and Kristine doing Reverse Shimmy in Aug. 2011, see at 16:12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXsIPqzbMs. What I'd appreciate hearing about is how you FCBD gals teach this move. What do you tell your students to do, what breakdown do you give? Thanks so much for any input!

Nancy 2012-06-27T01:15:42Z Afsana http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#9db40cac-40b7-429f-a7a8-e4dcbd61c111 2010-09-27T17:25:23Z 2010-09-27T17:25:23Z

Leigh: I always seem to perceive that my hips go out more to the side in the reverse shimmy than they do with the regular shimmy, sort of like drawing a heart shape - out and down to the right, then to the left. Am I just imagining it, or do you think it's an element of the reverse shimmy that's different from the regular shimmy? Well, there are two varieties - one neutral when it´s really under you body, and one when it goes more to the sides. the latter one actually looks like layered with a maya. I heard two different names for it - maya bounce or overshimmy.

Afsana 2010-09-27T17:25:23Z Ursel http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#c35c44d7-a981-4b6c-b77e-1d609a19d90e 2010-09-03T11:37:57Z 2010-09-03T11:37:57Z

Here's one at 0:54 (not by Megha though): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQk7oeTCD2I

Ursel 2010-09-03T11:37:57Z Lisa http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#562ef634-2f23-4b91-8496-507966fe6ae0 2010-09-02T23:48:37Z 2010-09-02T23:48:37Z

Megha does an awesome reverse shimmy but for the life of me I cant find any youtubage of it right now

Lisa 2010-09-02T23:48:37Z Barb aka Fikriyyah http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#0da28271-291b-4d9c-ba72-b27700678b40 2010-08-07T20:43:16Z 2010-08-07T20:43:16Z

From what I can see in volume 4, it appears as though Carolena is doing an alternating shimmy (aka knee shimmy, 4/4 shimmy, alternating glute squeezes, etc) as she does a reverse taxim (aka Maya). A 3/4 shimmy on the down has a totally different look. I have never heard a reference to "reverse shimmy" on any of the FCBD DVD's. I like the idea of using a 3/4 on the down shimmy in a solo or tacked on at a planned point. I can't imagine how anyone could pick up 3/4 down vs 3/4 up from just an emphatic step or hip movement. If so....I am truly in awe.

Barb aka Fikriyyah 2010-08-07T20:43:16Z Heidi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#23b3ce95-233f-41b5-912d-64838eee2253 2010-03-08T21:12:03Z 2010-03-08T21:12:03Z

ok, I think I'm still talking about the same thing . . ha! I am watching the video, and on Vol 4, Layering, Carolena says "the shimmy can also be layered over the reverse taxseem to create a walking or stationary step" . . then in the description . . "simply apply up down up to each outward roll of the hip" What it looks like is an up down up and an extra down when she places her foot down almost creating an illusion of a shimmy on the down. then it appears as though a taxseem is only a slow move in 99.9% of the vocab, but utilized here as a fast movement. (mah heads starting to 'splode) So its a fast reverse taxseem layered with a shimmy, which I think is what the originator of this thread is referring to. yes? no?

Heidi 2010-03-08T21:12:03Z Heidi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#24621140-873e-459e-a219-d079efd66377 2010-03-08T20:43:22Z 2010-03-08T20:43:22Z

Thank ya :)

Heidi 2010-03-08T20:43:22Z Carrie http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#14a9b910-b157-46eb-85f6-c80b78e1f0d9 2010-03-08T19:06:25Z 2010-03-08T19:06:25Z

Sandi's correct. The 'catwalk' is applied to the Regular Shimmy Step, not the reverse shimmy.

Carrie 2010-03-08T19:06:25Z Sandi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#d2e4feeb-ecb4-4a46-bd94-5bded0946364 2010-03-08T18:46:22Z 2010-03-08T18:46:22Z

Hmm... I know Carolena usually uses the "catwalk" visual for the regular Shimmy, not the Reverse, but I could be mistaken. In the catwalk scenario, she usually shows the difference between the regular, up-down-up Shimmy (nightclub) and the Ghawazee (country). This crossing of the feet, one in front of the other, gives roundness, bounce and dimension to the regular Shimmy when traveling. The Reverse Shimmy doesn't travel easily - a little bit awkward. Both the regular Shimmy and Reverse Shimmy are done with feet close together while stationary.

Sandi 2010-03-08T18:46:22Z Heidi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#592eacee-20e4-44f3-b7b1-0dee09bcdd97 2010-03-08T16:24:53Z 2010-03-08T16:24:53Z

Sorry to respond so late, and I hope not to confuse things further hehe! But, in the GS we were also taught the "cat walk" type shimmy wich is very similar to the hagala in that you are stepping on balls of feet, one in front of the other, and hips are down up down and with the foot stepping on the 3d down (down beat). Anyone? :D dont you just love us first timer GSers? :D

Heidi 2010-03-08T16:24:53Z Sandi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#cf942a83-f352-4d8f-b713-b57bf156a4b9 2010-03-04T21:23:42Z 2010-03-04T21:23:42Z

It is a subtle difference that is hard to cue, which is why reverse shimmy and regular shimmy don't get put together. Just as reverse and regular taxeems don't either. Too hard for followers to pick up on.

Sandi 2010-03-04T21:23:42Z $item.owner.firstName http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#72b9ca37-b78c-4ea1-8c4a-da243cacd4ee 2010-03-04T20:33:42Z 2010-03-04T20:33:42Z

We use the Reverse Shimmy, but we'll plan it, ferinstance, this month every time one of us cues an Egyptian full turn we'll use the reverse shimmy to come out of it, until we get bored with that and decide to tack it on somewhere else.....I love the way it looks, but it's really hard to read the cue (at least for me, or maybe I'm cueing it incorrectly?) and I also learned haglhalla with twist and whump :-) - no twist no whump in reverse shimmy as far as I know.

$item.owner.firstName 2010-03-04T20:33:42Z Mek http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#3bd275a0-d5be-4e1c-9481-d7b6bf2390b8 2010-03-04T13:13:21Z 2010-03-04T13:13:21Z

>>Except in my experience, haglhalla has a twist and downward "whump" accent to it, while the reverse shimmy does not>> True - I do agree with that however while there is no twist to the reverse shimmy, there definitely is a distinctive downward accent when doing it on the down. <g> still maybe I'm remembering it differently than the rest of the folks. Mek

Mek 2010-03-04T13:13:21Z Shay http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#a97fde7d-aa57-4fed-895d-9876802d5d53 2010-03-03T19:55:46Z 2010-03-03T19:55:46Z

Except in my experience, haglhalla has a twist and downward "whump" accent to it, while the reverse shimmy does not.

Shay 2010-03-03T19:55:46Z Mek http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#3e128f2f-4419-4311-bbd4-ce12beaf6840 2010-03-03T14:27:49Z 2010-03-03T14:27:49Z

Unless the reverse shimmy has changed since I learned it - just the movement itself is different from that of a reverse taxeem, at least in my opinion. Reverse Taxeen (mia or what is called a vertical 8 on the down): The hip extends outward then downward and repeats other side as weight is shifted. Reverse shimmy (haghala (sp?) or 3/4 on the down): The hip comes down on the weighted foot then comes up then down again and repeats on other side as weight shifts to other foot. They don't look at all alike and definitely feels very different....my two cents. Mek

Mek 2010-03-03T14:27:49Z Shay http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#d2b23d45-0a5f-4c60-809f-d486925103bf 2010-02-25T20:00:27Z 2010-02-25T20:00:27Z

Yes, what Wendy said. It's the SHAPE, not specifically the TEMPO of the move we're talking about.

Shay 2010-02-25T20:00:27Z telebomb http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#73957f39-a29a-4656-b244-8d461a1c18a3 2010-02-25T19:18:30Z 2010-02-25T19:18:30Z

That's what Rachel Brice said, too, at her workshop at the fatchance studios in January.

telebomb 2010-02-25T19:18:30Z Mareike http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#7bf55cda-c41b-46b0-81c2-5a64b3fd7c59 2010-01-26T15:35:47Z 2010-01-26T15:35:47Z

Thank you for your help

Mareike 2010-01-26T15:35:47Z Anna http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#0c8dfd53-9a6d-4b96-b861-252e8b456359 2010-01-24T19:52:02Z 2010-01-24T19:52:02Z

Other than solos, is there any particular time when this is best-used in a fast piece?

Anna 2010-01-24T19:52:02Z Wendy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#5d795ef2-03b3-4385-9bcf-430d89a925f4 2010-01-24T16:58:28Z 2010-01-24T16:58:28Z

Blargh! Rev shimmy and revTAXEEM, is what I was TRYING to say.

Wendy 2010-01-24T16:58:28Z Wendy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#17a98788-a26f-4e2e-b287-a165fa18f276 2010-01-24T16:56:51Z 2010-01-24T16:53:46Z

I think what I do is I'm seeing the shape of the move. To me the shape of the rev shimmy is similar to the shape of the rev shimmy, the same way the shape of the body wave and Arabic are similar.

Wendy 2010-01-24T16:53:46Z Sandi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#e8ba2c3e-cde0-4e79-aaad-bb7a3a02e195 2010-01-23T19:06:12Z 2010-01-23T19:06:12Z

Hmm...that's confusing to me, as I think of the Taxeem (in the ATS sense) as only slow movement. And Shimmy is only fast. My brain just doesn't mix the two concepts, unless it is a specialty thing. Still, there is no arm undulation in the Reverse Shimmy. I know that much! ;D

Sandi 2010-01-23T19:06:12Z Wendy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#18ecc74f-a6ae-4dc8-a4ad-3e7dfafb4f35 2010-01-23T17:32:21Z 2010-01-23T17:30:32Z

Sandi, I think she was talking about the arms with the reverse shimmy, if that's what you're referring to.

Wendy 2010-01-23T17:30:32Z Wendy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#e93021c7-31ff-4467-a0a4-e647b89b5e8a 2010-01-23T17:32:10Z 2010-01-23T17:32:10Z

I do see it as similar to a reverse taxeem in that the hips do go out and down, so it's a similar gesture, only rhythmic with a shimmy layered over it.

Wendy 2010-01-23T17:32:10Z Sandi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#5c017054-2d5e-44a9-bde9-26f09eb8830a 2010-01-23T10:38:04Z 2010-01-23T10:38:04Z

Dood, I don't know how that is possible. Taxeem is exclusively slow, not fast. I'll have to check out that video. It could be something that was phased out before my time. Or maybe a terminology issue. Tho, I could see something like that happening in a solo, but not in a lead/follow situation. Not a very good angle/light/example, but at about 9:41 I do a Reverse Shimmy. Trying to find a better example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiDapscsO54 Here, at :25, Rina does a Reverse Shimmy - again, poor quality video upload http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hgTqVJG4WU

Sandi 2010-01-23T10:38:04Z Mareike http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#23076d8e-0f9a-4326-aed5-80834cf7ad11 2010-01-22T21:21:12Z 2010-01-22T21:21:12Z

We are talking about taxeem and shimmy in the same move, because it`s on DVD 4 in the chapter layering :-) There is a move where a reverse Taxeem is layerd over a shimmy on the down, it`s a fast movement. Do you took this out of the vocabulary?

Mareike 2010-01-22T21:21:12Z Sandi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#9e4e1637-e6a6-4cf9-9ab6-c5c0a6e662c4 2010-01-22T20:34:04Z 2010-01-22T20:34:04Z

But there is no arm undulation in the Reverse Shimmy. This is why I'm confused.

Sandi 2010-01-22T20:34:04Z Pacifica Funkster http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#aab331c2-408c-4a11-9db4-c17f60c7b370 2010-01-22T19:55:34Z 2010-01-22T19:55:34Z

> Arms are horizontal, loose wrists while playing zils, matching the hips (rocking over and out, rather than swinging under and out). This is fast. Thanks - this is what I was asking about. I worked on it a little last night. I was able to get the arms more horizontal instead of huge undulations, but I kept losing the shimmy! I will keep drilling - would love to start using this one more!

Pacifica Funkster 2010-01-22T19:55:34Z Sandi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#760bfdb6-b5c0-434e-91eb-e2b5c014e255 2010-01-22T19:09:18Z 2010-01-22T19:09:18Z

Wait. Why are we talking about taxeem and shimmy in the same move? The Reverse Taxeem is slow. The Reverse Shimmy is fast. I'm confused here too. Reverse Shimmy is a down-up-down on each beat/step. Just like the regular Shimmy is up-down-up on each beat/step. Arms are horizontal, loose wrists while playing zils, matching the hips (rocking over and out, rather than swinging under and out). This is fast. Reverse Taxeem is a reverse direction of the regular Taxeem. Up through the center over and down, as opposed to down through the center out and up. For both, the arms are matching the hips. This is slow and a-rhythmic. Just wanted to clarify.

Sandi 2010-01-22T19:09:18Z Wendy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#00ad48ba-f1fd-4a5a-aca9-9a127f06fd84 2010-01-22T06:34:21Z 2010-01-22T06:32:20Z

huh, I've never really noticed, but that makes sense...

Wendy 2010-01-22T06:32:20Z Pacifica Funkster http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#a0c583f7-ce76-41f1-8489-35f605f6a19f 2010-01-21T18:40:12Z 2010-01-21T18:40:12Z

I find I get sympathetic arm undulation going instead of the shimmy's usual static arm. Is this OK? Or do I have to overcome the invisible muscle memory strings that are working during taxeem?

Pacifica Funkster 2010-01-21T18:40:12Z Wendy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#ea8949c6-f5fa-4cca-8c5d-9c537a3ccfdc 2010-01-21T17:29:01Z 2010-01-21T17:29:01Z

yeah, Mareike, it is like a reverse Taxeem in that the hips do go out, but they go out, down, up, down.

Wendy 2010-01-21T17:29:01Z Mareike http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#0fec2c8b-f240-420d-b70d-96d0f9b53049 2010-01-21T15:44:41Z 2010-01-21T15:44:41Z

Sorry but I´m still confused. Is a Reverse Shimmy the same as a Reverse Taxeem Shimmy? And if it`s the same is it only a 3/4 shimmy on the down ( for me that would mean the hips could stay centert, they don`t need to go out) or is it a reverse Taxeem ( hips go up, out, down) layerd with a 3/4 shimmy on the down? Thanks

Mareike 2010-01-21T15:44:41Z Wendy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#92d99261-7616-4fd6-83dc-91665fb31107 2010-01-03T01:04:21Z 2010-01-03T01:04:21Z

I'll be prepared!

Wendy 2010-01-03T01:04:21Z Sandi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#7d2598ba-2528-42ef-8ff4-1ec74d072c90 2010-01-02T19:12:15Z 2010-01-02T19:12:15Z

Now I'm going to throw it in every chance I get. ;D

Sandi 2010-01-02T19:12:15Z Wendy http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#ec8b8211-bf96-4571-ab7c-454c41aab4f8 2010-01-02T18:49:27Z 2010-01-02T18:49:27Z

yeah, it's not commonly used, not so much because the audience doesn't know the difference, but I think more because we just forget about it. :-)

Wendy 2010-01-02T18:49:27Z Alex http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#05fb40ab-72fd-423d-a37d-8c2399a7ad3b 2010-01-02T02:01:28Z 2010-01-02T02:01:28Z

I think I've heard that it's not commonly used because audiences don't know the difference between it and a standard 3/4.

Alex 2010-01-02T02:01:28Z Leslie Jean-Jellybean http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#71dcd9ed-c7a0-48d8-af13-242278330831 2010-01-01T21:17:23Z 2010-01-01T21:17:23Z

I don't think I've ever used this move in an ATS context, either. In fact, this one went right over my head.

Leslie Jean-Jellybean 2010-01-01T21:17:23Z Susan http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#590fa681-f647-49ee-954e-131ee19f14ae 2010-01-01T09:41:14Z 2010-01-01T09:41:14Z

Thank you, I must have missed it.

Susan 2010-01-01T09:41:14Z Alex http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#21d0a41a-4125-4e15-a4b3-0e6f8696d29d 2009-12-31T20:46:43Z 2009-12-31T20:46:43Z

Ah, that'd be why I couldn't find it.

Alex 2009-12-31T20:46:43Z Joan Marie http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#8d44546d-2767-454a-9373-5e37f97d26f0 2009-12-31T18:38:27Z 2009-12-31T18:38:27Z

It is on DVD 4 under layering. jms

Joan Marie 2009-12-31T18:38:27Z Alex http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#51aa199d-490c-459b-8568-efbbc9f107af 2009-12-31T16:47:09Z 2009-12-31T16:47:09Z

I don't know that it's on any of them. Could be wrong, though.

Alex 2009-12-31T16:47:09Z Susan http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#1003fc6b-5e00-4dc4-8b78-c9fcbb0fe8b5 2009-12-31T08:23:45Z 2009-12-31T08:23:45Z

Can anyone tell me which of the FC DVD's this is on?

Susan 2009-12-31T08:23:45Z Carrie http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#5f1c6288-790e-4f8e-9557-2b1f3c172f9f 2009-11-24T00:08:51Z 2009-11-24T00:08:51Z

Kinda like the reverse taxeem where you have to make the first move (right side) very obvious.

Carrie 2009-11-24T00:08:51Z $item.owner.firstName http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#5e1cfd25-a0a6-4101-94b1-1a1046773f7f 2009-11-23T23:05:42Z 2009-11-23T23:05:42Z

What is the cue for it?

$item.owner.firstName 2009-11-23T23:05:42Z JoY http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#8706a702-03c0-48ce-bf9c-4283f95d741e 2009-11-23T22:48:49Z 2009-11-23T22:48:49Z

its a hard move to cue... I use it in solo's mostly. :)

JoY 2009-11-23T22:48:49Z Carrie http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#bcacbad5-8016-4ed4-bdc6-7f733fa0c3e5 2009-11-23T22:06:24Z 2009-11-23T22:06:24Z

We just practiced this move last week in troupe class, namely because I hardly ever do it, so the other ladies don't really think to do it either. But, on the same token I don't pull out reverse taxeem very often either. I do really like this move, but use it only sparingly.

Carrie 2009-11-23T22:06:24Z Susan http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#b033df8d-2350-4612-a5d1-221c8b8ae747 2009-11-23T07:04:42Z 2009-11-23T07:04:42Z

Hey Valizan, me neither. I guess I have never been able to speed it up, and so it kind of feels like what other dancers call a variationof a Maya with a smallish step on the first down of a down/up/down sequence on one hip then on the other hip.

Susan 2009-11-23T07:04:42Z Nicole Tehani http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#07cd5975-bdea-46de-bfd1-226356a5c631 2009-11-23T01:56:15Z 2009-11-23T01:56:15Z

So glad you asked this! =)

Nicole Tehani 2009-11-23T01:56:15Z Shay http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#40451afa-7eff-40c6-9a66-a1e298938c0a 2009-11-22T20:28:46Z 2009-11-22T20:28:46Z

This is how I was taught it, Valizan, and how I see it as well.

Shay 2009-11-22T20:28:46Z Alex http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#0c90867f-cbaf-4553-a7a5-79b14a754378 2009-11-22T16:23:01Z 2009-11-22T16:23:01Z

My friend who does both fusion and ATS also said that, Valizan. I was taught it as an arc back to front with each hip; the energy is directed out the back rather than out the front. It's a terribly fun move.

Alex 2009-11-22T16:23:01Z $item.owner.firstName http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#574e110b-3939-4cb8-b65e-de09fa7054d8 2009-11-22T06:07:50Z 2009-11-22T06:07:50Z

You know what is funny Madonna? I don't think I have EVER used this move in an ATS context! From the video I've seen of this, it looks like a maya with a shimmy on top. Up and over, up and over...

$item.owner.firstName 2009-11-22T06:07:50Z Madonna http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#f2cfe107-f7f0-4c75-9640-a6fc77e3caab 2009-11-22T04:30:35Z 2009-11-22T04:30:35Z

Just give it a go - its fun! If you can already do a shimmy you can do the reverse with practice. Its also a great alternative to the shimmy for travelling / roving. Perhaps just try practising the move slowly then building up tempo when you can. One of my favourite ATS moves!

Madonna 2009-11-22T04:30:35Z Sandi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#0be25243-ce93-4f0f-a8ca-539fd50bbecb 2009-11-21T17:52:50Z 2009-11-21T17:52:50Z

They do go out a little further, but not much. It may just be that they look different than the regular shimmy, just like the regular and reverse taxeem. Let's go over it today in Drills class. :}

Sandi 2009-11-21T17:52:50Z Tasha-Rose http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#fe22b9e9-42da-4f7d-9288-9cee8580a44b 2009-11-21T17:32:32Z 2009-11-21T17:32:32Z

I really don't think I want to retrain my muscles to do this. :-/

Tasha-Rose 2009-11-21T17:32:32Z Leigh Anne http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#c259a851-723d-42e0-966e-34808144e2c9 2009-11-21T17:30:16Z 2009-11-21T17:30:16Z

I always seem to perceive that my hips go out more to the side in the reverse shimmy than they do with the regular shimmy, sort of like drawing a heart shape - out and down to the right, then to the left. Am I just imagining it, or do you think it's an element of the reverse shimmy that's different from the regular shimmy?

Leigh Anne 2009-11-21T17:30:16Z Sandi http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#c1c4d925-60ac-42b4-bb04-ae6251fd5776 2009-11-21T17:01:54Z 2009-11-21T17:01:54Z

Yes, the down is the "down"beat. ;} And you're not stepping on a bent knee. It is just the same as a regular shimmy, as far as stepping goes. Once you get to full time shimmies, the up-down-ups and down-up-downs are done "in the air" so to speak, not using the floor, but using the obliques to create the effects so that you are just stepping on each beat with equally soft knees.

Sandi 2009-11-21T17:01:54Z $item.owner.firstName http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#fcd31694-5bb2-4ea6-8b21-1b2f9c2a86ff 2009-11-21T16:43:52Z 2009-11-21T16:43:52Z

So it is a 3/4 shimmy on the down with an emphasized down?

$item.owner.firstName 2009-11-21T16:43:52Z Kylie http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#f0986157-0a60-4beb-a62e-3a299dc21e6a 2009-11-21T12:51:57Z 2009-11-21T12:51:57Z

And you are stepping on a bent knee!!

Kylie 2009-11-21T12:51:57Z jesse http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#d359d631-c93c-4aae-ac3b-2765c9f83210 2009-11-21T10:12:53Z 2009-11-21T10:12:53Z

instead of the up-down-up motion of the hips on each step with the 3/4 shimmy....the hip goes down-up-down with each step.

jesse 2009-11-21T10:12:53Z $item.owner.firstName http://ATS.tribe.net/thread/861aee11-7b8e-4859-81ba-f77007a96246#8b587cec-a0b1-481e-a728-2ecb7bc2eaa8 2009-11-21T09:08:08Z 2009-11-21T09:08:08Z

What is it the reverse of?

$item.owner.firstName 2009-11-21T09:08:08Z