I only got flutters when I heard to fill your lungs 3/4 with air, relax your body, close your mouth very tightly, and try to inhale through your mouth.

That, and whenever you laugh spontaneously and your belly shakes (though I probably have more shaking than you on that count...) it'll sort of jump start the motion. Try to continue it.

Now I can talk through a roll or a flutter, and roll up and down, with a flutter layered on it. You WILL get it!

I practice my bellyrolls all the time to finally get them. I would just practice while sitting at work, on the bus, watching tv. Basically, I was first trying to contract and expand my stomach, which help improve strength.

Hi all,

I just joined this tribe and thought I would say hello and also tell you that flutters have always been a really vague move for me, I sometimes think it is accomplished by sheer magic, but this explanation of how to do it is good and I will be giving it a try. I just hope I don't faint while doing it!!!

Glad to be here!! Thanks for the tip.
Luna

I think its awsome that so many people acheive this move in such a different way. i release all the air out of my lungs before i flutter. I'm not sure why... Then when i've moved all the air out of my lungs, i lift my chest up to a bit of a better position, just raising my chest a little bit, kinda in a dancer ready pose i guess, haha. (to me this kinda frees up the fat on my stomach its all exposed and really to move) And then i would push out my stomach, again and again and again. AT first you can only do it very small, almost rediculously small, and you hate it. But if you do it for a while, everywhere you go (thats what i did, haha) it just breaks through and then you've got it.

No one seemed to touch on belly rolls here, and i can help you cause i such at that shit. i would honestly like someone to break down the necessary things for both belly rolls, because mine are so weak its killing me.

Also i have trouble layering my flutters....does anyone else have this problem, i start to move and it just dwindles away..... HELP :o)

I can't flutter to save my life, but...

Today at the gym as I was lifting weights I may have discovered something. I can't begin to explain why it worked, but here's what happened:

I was doing side lateral raises with 8 lb weights in each hand. To do this you raise your arms out to the side until they're level with your shoulders. When I got to this point, and don't ask me what made me do it, I tried a flutter and lo and behold! I could see it! It wasn't big, but I actually did it! So, I set the weights down and tried it again. Nothing. Picked the weights back up and there it was again!

It's most likely got something to do with my breathing and muscle contractions, but why I need the weights to do it I don't understand. So, my thought is to keep doing it with weights until it becomes muscle memory and then slowly start reducing the amount of weight until eventually I can do it without them and with my arm position anywhere.

If anyone knows anything about physiology and can explain this to me I'm all ears.

woo hoo! I may well be on my way to fluttering... finally!!!

Shira wrote a really helpful respose to a question similar to yours on her website shira.net (somewhere in her Q&A column). It helped me a lot. I am not one of those fortunate ones who've "always been able to do it", but it's coming... Slooowly :-).