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Okay, so for YEARS I've been doing and teaching this variation on the Basic Arabic -- counting 1-2-3-4 you put the right foot flat on 1, the 2-3-4 on the balls of the feet.
I don't teach in English, I've had to translate the names of the steps, and sometimes I forget what the step is called in English because sometimes there's not a literal translation and I have to make something up. So I was looking at my DVDs to find out what this move is called and I don't find it. I THOUGHT this was a FatChance move, but I've been teaching it for so long I don't really remember. Maybe I learned it from my first teacher. Does anyone know (a) Is this a FatChance move? (b) What is it called? (c) How do you cue it?
I don't teach in English, I've had to translate the names of the steps, and sometimes I forget what the step is called in English because sometimes there's not a literal translation and I have to make something up. So I was looking at my DVDs to find out what this move is called and I don't find it. I THOUGHT this was a FatChance move, but I've been teaching it for so long I don't really remember. Maybe I learned it from my first teacher. Does anyone know (a) Is this a FatChance move? (b) What is it called? (c) How do you cue it?
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 11:57 AMIt's not a FCBD move. I think you may have seen it in some of the really old videos, but it's no longer part of the vocabulary. -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 11:58 AMThanks Sandy. No wonder I couldn't remember what it was called in English :-)
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 12:00 PMIt's not FCBD. It's one of Jamila Salimpour's arabic variations. I forget which one. I'll have to look it up in the manual I have. -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 12:35 PMArabic 1 is flat-ball-ball-ball. -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 12:56 PMIt's a Jamilla move, so it's not improvisational. But when we used to use it (Gypsy Caravan used it as Arabic 1 as well), we just went into it. Intention was the only cue. Arms didn't change. You could do it as a side-travel with L arms, or turning with arms up or with one elbow leading. But it isn't an ATS move, as Sandi said. -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 12:59 PMSimilarly tho, we do sometimes accent a Shimmy with a dip on the one. We don't go flat on the right foot, but stay on the ball and just bend the knee more. -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 1:02 PMAh, okay. I was doing this one going flat on the fight foot as well. A dip on the 1 and then 2-3-4 on the balls of the feet?
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 7:08 PMLove that one... BOOM Shimmy Shimmy Shimmy.... -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 7:09 PM(threads under "Similarly tho, we do sometimes accent a Shimmy with a dip on the one... ")
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Tue, February 10, 2009 - 1:31 AMOn the Gypsy Caravan DVDs I think this move is sometimes also refered to as "Arabic Down & Up", if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Sun, February 15, 2009 - 2:38 PMI found my Jamilla manual. According to it down, up, up, up is Arabic II. -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Tue, February 17, 2009 - 10:39 AMAh, okay. So what's Arabic I? -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Tue, February 17, 2009 - 12:35 PMJamila doesn't have an Arabic I. She calls it Arabic Basic. Right foot flat, left on the ball. Arabic III is like the FCBD Arabic hip twist but with the Down, up, up, up whereas FCBD is all on the ball of the foot. Arabic IV is the footwork of the FCBD Turkish shimmy but instead of the shimmy it is just hip up on each step and it is done flat footed. -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Sat, February 21, 2009 - 7:35 PMwhere did you get this manual? that sounds so interesting :D -
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Sun, February 22, 2009 - 8:19 AMSuhaila sells the manual on her website. It's The Danse Oriental, $25. First produced by Jamila in 1978. She was the first to categorize and name steps. Some of the descriptions are a little hard to follow, but I took several workshops with Jamila in the 1970's so I know how they go.
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Tue, February 10, 2009 - 7:24 AMWe use this, but we always do it after beginning a regular Arabic for4 counts and then turn to each of the two front corners with the "1" or flat part...first to the left and then to the right. We call it "Arabic with a level change" (creative hu?) - our cue is simply the body angle change.
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Fri, February 20, 2009 - 7:26 AMI want to say that BSBD has a flat-ball-ball-ball Arabic but I may be mis-remembering. My troupe uses it in variations, one as a turn (the f-b-b-b feet, L arm up in the air, R arm down at right side, turn clockwise either 306 degrees or into a circle). We also do a variation with those feet in a circle, R arms into the circle center, L arm across the chest, and it moves forward (like a pinwheel), and we have a 180 degree turn on it if cued. It's an old move from one of our teachers that we kept for our (non ATS) troupe.
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Fri, February 20, 2009 - 3:55 PMThat sounds like Kajira's "Slow Arabic" found on American Tribal Style Beyond Basics with Kajira Djoumahna
1 Flat, Raise chest
2 Ball
3 Ball, Raise chest
4 Ball
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Re: variation on Basic Arabic
Mon, February 23, 2009 - 6:16 PMHi,
We do this move (also call it Arabic w/ level change) and cue it by turning to the front and arms arms change:
on 1 elbows bend and hands come down to eye level so that arms form the shape of an American football goal; on 3 they go back up.
We do 1/4 turns with it.
