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I'm new-ish to ATS and in my travels and dancing I've heard a few people mention "stealing" the lead. How do you take the lead away from the lead dancer? Can someone explain to me how this happens, pretty please??
Thanks!!
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Re: question regarding stealing the lead
Mon, June 1, 2009 - 9:27 AMWhen the dancers are in a step that turns (Turkish 1/4 turn, Egyptian 1/2 turn, Arabic Hip Twist 1/2 turn, etc.) at each point the step turns, there will be a different person at lead position, relative to the new orientation. In other words, on a half-turn step, the dance formerly at the rear right of the group will be in lead position as the dancers face the back. If that person steps forward and goes into a new step, with intention, they have stolen the lead.
It's not done much on a regular stage where the audience is only in front of the dancers, but is useful for situations where we dance in the round. But tricky, and everyone really has to stay on their toes so they don't miss it, and the new lead has to go into the new step a little quickly, so the rest can catch it as they come around- if you don't jump the gun a little, you will lose your chance until next time. -
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Re: question regarding stealing the lead
Mon, June 1, 2009 - 10:12 AMOh! This sounds very useful. We often dance in situations where the audience is everywhere!
So, essentially, when the lead is stolen, the troupe is changing the direction they face while they dance? -
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Re: question regarding stealing the lead
Mon, June 1, 2009 - 10:40 AMYes, the front lead has to turn in order for anyone else to take the lead. Additionally, the follower doesn't have to turn at all (1/2 turns or pivots) in order to change lead. They can hold their position to face the lead's turn. -
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Re: question regarding stealing the lead
Mon, July 6, 2009 - 10:15 AMSo, would you ever steal the lead in a situation where the audience was only to the front of you? -
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Re: question regarding stealing the lead
Mon, July 6, 2009 - 10:51 AMYes, you can do that in any audience setup.
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Re: question regarding stealing the lead
Tue, July 7, 2009 - 5:39 PMI don't get it. If the audience is all around and the person formerly in back is now in the lead position and you would want to divide the orientation of the performance so entire audience can have a "front row" position at some time, is it technically stealing? I'd say you'd almost plan it to happen that way.
I can also see if the group is going around in a circle and a person could change the movement when she reaches the lead position. Again, technically, is that really stealing the lead?
If the group is facing the audience which is all in front how could the lead be stolen? Thanks much! -
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Re: question regarding stealing the lead
Tue, July 7, 2009 - 10:40 PMI personally don't like the term "stealing" the lead because it sounds like someone is showgirling the leader out of the way. Its not like that at all. It's communicating and adding to the conversation.
So, if the audience is in the round, of course discussions should be had on where your front is and/or if you want to present to several sides so that everyone gets some front focus. There can be any number of ways to change leads in that sort of situation. You can focus on flipping from front to back positions if you are in stagger setup. Or as a trio diagonal or duet, you can do the same by flipping from one end lead to the other end lead. You can also circle around when you want to switch and reset as a stagger in a different position.
As far as a follower taking the lead, that only happens when there is clear communication and sightlines so that each dancer sees that another follower is changing the movement and taking the lead. This happens during a half turn or pivoting movement (not during full turns, either fast or slow) so that people get a chance to catch the lead change - assuming that you are keeping an eye on each other. You have to be alert and anticipate it, even if it's not something that you would normally do, it is still an option. -
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Re: question regarding stealing the lead
Tue, July 7, 2009 - 10:47 PMHere's a gig we did where the audience was on 3 sides. We mostly focused on the more populated side, but you can see the duets switching back and forth from one side to the other. In the slow song, I take the lead to the 3rd side for just a moment. Not too many people on that side. ;}
www.youtube.com/watch -
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Re: question regarding stealing the lead
Thu, July 9, 2009 - 2:37 PMBrilliant (as always)!! Thanks for sharing the video clip. It always helps to see!
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