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The Egyptian

2008-05-14T15:59:42Z

I've been meaning to post this for some time now. And today seems like a good day to do it, so here goes.

My favorite ATS move, is, hands down, the Egyptian. I love the hip movement and what it does to a skirt. I love the face-framing arms. I just love it. But there is one thing I have noticed about this move...

... everyone seems to do it a little (or a lot) different.

When doing the Egyptian, the arms specifically, when they bend do they stay behind the head, or do they bend and come forward? I have been following what I was taught at Pura and what's on the DVDs.... and that's arms behind the head, framing, not blocking. Is that right?

oxox

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teaching the ASWAT fade

2008-05-14T15:50:37Z

Hello!

I learned the ASWAT (Arabic Shimmy with Arm Variation and a Turn) step at the General Skills in B'ham last April (2007). Tried to bring it back to my class, and we we go the ASWAT part down fairly well, but when I tried to remember the fade, I mucked it all up, and we we just have been using ASWAT on it's own. Of note, when trying to do the fade at the G.S, I totally CRASHED into someone since I was trying to travel and turn (which is wrong!), that should have been my first clue that I didn't understand the fade quite right!

Nearly a year later, at TribalCon 2008 I am reminded of the ASWAT with a fade by the lovely Megha of Devyani, and I GET IT. I understand it, and can do it, so I feel confident about trying to reintroduce it to my students last night.

What a hard subject to try to teach!

I try counting. I try demonstrating with a student that attended TribalCon and tend to pick up following fast (thanks Laura!)

Lots of blank stares. Lots of glares. Lots of "I can't follow that, I don't see the cue" (even after it had been explained and shown). One lady actually left class for awhile because she was so frustrated.

This is such a beautiful step and I know it is hard to grasp the fade, but it shouldn't be this hard to teach! I am going to bring my Volume 7 to class to show it to those who have never seen it 'in action', and I intend to just bring this step out ever week this month to practice (it was ALL we did for about 45 minutes last night, and THAT WAS HARD on me!) but I am wondering if anyone has suggestions on how to best teach this??

Any suggestions are welcome!

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Choo-choos? Help!

2008-05-14T15:39:13Z

Help! My "homework" is due today, and of course I didn't get started until last night. . .our teacher has us make index cards of all the moves in ATS so you can pull three of four and practice putting the moves together. I am working on the list of beginning movements--and hit a snag almost immediately. (I've only been studying tribal about 6 months). On the list was "choo-choo" (we have to write the position, number of counts, then describe the move). I did so, explaining the moves/arm position of a single choo-choo. Two down on the list was "single choo-choo." Huh? Is there a difference between a choo-choo and a single choo-choo? I am going to try to finish my cards on my lunch hour, so immediate input would be enormously appreciated. . . .

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Moves to go backwards?

2008-05-14T09:47:02Z

I've been studying Egyptian Cabaret for a while, but am fairly new to ATS and its variations. In class, we've learned moves in place and moves that go forward, but we haven't learned any moves to go backwards (other than simply scootching back while we do Arabic). Can anyone recommend some tasty moves that will keep us from eating the studio mirror? ^_~

(Our teacher is learning ATS as she's trying to teach us, there was no one available in the area that we could find, so she's doing her best.)

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ATS Retreat??

2008-05-14T01:29:48Z

Sooooooo...

If I put together an ATS retreat in beautiful northwoods Wisconsin, would any of you actually rilly rilly come? I'm thinkin' summer 2009.There is a wonderful retreat center here http://www.christinecenter.org/ that I recently found out about (am hired to do a workshop) and visited and it would be *perfect*! Lovely dance space, peaceful surroundings, area to do drumming and dancing by the fire at night - just PERFECT!!! And retreat meaning, no scheduled workshops, just dance and girl time. :O) I would be more than willing to organize the retreat for not much more than actual cost of reserving the dance space. Attendees would need to also pay for their own lodging and meals (delicious vegetarian meals!). Really, I'm not looking to make a profit... just wanting to get a bunch of us ATS dancers together to just *enjoy* each other and the dance. So, what say you? Hmmmmm??

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End of a piece

2008-05-11T08:06:02Z

Hi guys,

I just was wondering what people do when they wrap up a piece. Do you just freeze the last move? Do you do something special? In the past, whenever we "officially" perform, we set up something for the end so we know what to do. But we have had instances when, just for the fun of it, we're doing some improv to a random piece that we don't know thoroughly so sometimes the end catches you by surprise. What do others do?

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Stealing the lead

2008-05-09T19:18:13Z

Curious about the whole Stealing-the-Lead concept. Who out there does it, who doesn't?

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Costuming and ATS

2008-05-07T23:55:13Z

I've been mulling this question over for a few days, doing some research on the net to see if I can answer it myself and I'm curious what all of you ladies have to say, especially the FCBD gals.

How much officialness is there to the costuming aspect of ATS? What pieces are considered required in a costume to call it an ATS-appropriate costume, if there are any requirements? I know that ATS and tribal style in general has a specific, non-tangible look that you can point to and say, "that's tribal style", but I'm wondering if those who head up the powers that be of ATS have any kind of requirements in the costuming. Can the costume only, and not any of the moves, mean that your act is out of ATS and into Tribal Fusion?

I'm only asking out of curiosity because the other day I saw a FCBD video in which one of the dancers (and only one) was wearing a white choli, and I thought, "neat, I haven't seen that before." And that got me thinking about how cool it could look to do an entire tribal-style costume in white -- white dreads, white cowrie falls, white top, white skirt, white make up, and lots and lots of tribal metal ornaments. Then I thought...wait, would that be too far away from traditional ATS garb that I've seen?

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does anyone have problems with keeping slow movements interesting?

2008-05-07T22:41:20Z

When I see fat chance doing slow movements, it seems to be of a fast pace even though it is slow movements

When we are practising slow movements, it is so slow paced and can be really boring. Especially when we are doing a fade or circle it just seems to take ages to move around. walking taxeem and walking body wave take ages before someone else is able to take over the lead and we seem to be in the taxeem forever.

Are other people struggling or have struggled with this in the past? do you have any tips to make slow moves more interesting?

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Arabic with shimmy

2008-05-03T02:20:37Z

Hello was taught this in class last night, with arms and with turn.
Practicing today discovered i can do with either shimmy, or as Arabic - my brain grinds to a halt when i try to do the both.
Can sort of do it standing still, but even then its very very slow.
Is it just practice practice practice or do any of you have any enlightened words of wisdom for me?
X Katie

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It takes sooooo long... encouragement please!

2008-04-30T01:22:27Z

I'm just realizing how looooong it takes to build an ATS group of ladies from scratch!! Since there is no one else in my area teaching true ATS (or any strictly improv variation thereof), I started teaching about a year ago. I had learned bits and pieces from teachers who mostly used the steps in their own choreographies, and one teacher who taught lead/follow improv as a portion of her classes. Then I bought the videos and set to work learning all I could that way, and also attended Tribal:Pura. I have such a respect for the dance form!!!

Anyhoo, doing some lead/follow improv with a troupe I used to dance with, there were a couple of AH-HA moments - I'm sure you know what I mean! All of a sudden things were flowing and the improv took on a life of it's own and we were **connected**. It lasted only a little while, but spurred me on to pursue ATS. I eventually quit the troupe to devote all my dance time to learning and teaching ATS (the troupe rarely actually practiced the improv - and so just the couple ah-ha's). I'm signed up to take both GS & TT in Milwaukee in November.

So, a year into teaching, I'm just beginning to realize how long it takes to build a group of truly connected ATS dancers. I can see why teachers often rely on choreographies - the instant gratification, not only for their students but for themselves as well. Sometimes I just want it all to come together NOW! Sometimes I just want to teach a choreo, then I have to remind myself that it would only hamper my ATS efforts in the long run.

Sooooo... any thoughts... any encouragement you can offer would be much appreciated. :O)

Several of my students who have been with me for the entire year are now going to join me for extra practice every other week for 3+ hours. We'll be starting in a couple weeks; I'm very much looking forward to that! They are already beautiful dancers and we enjoy dancing together very much, but then I think about how much further we have to go yet... I know, just relax and enjoy the journey! I *do* enjoy the journey, it's just sometimes... you know...

*JOY*ful Shimmies,
Ameena

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ATS Improv etiquette

2008-04-29T14:25:44Z

One of my classmates consistently cues one of the step variations incorrectly, and gives the cue for a different variation. So consistently that I can pretty much see it coming, and do the step incorrectly along with her, if need be. This isn't too tragic in the classroom where nobody's looking, but it doesn't help her (the teacher has corrected her a number of times, but it doesn't take), but she just did it at a public performance, and it really threw off the third person in the trio, who didn't know what the hell was going on.

So, my question is this: is it fair to ask her to not try to lead this step until she can consistently do it the right way? I know I get to my lead and sometimes freeze up or give the wrong cues myself, as I'm sure we all do initially.

OR: do I, along with the other dance partner, go ahead and do the step this leader is actually cueing, so at least I'll be in synch with the third dancer, or do I try to follow the leader, even though she's wrong? Opinions?

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ATS Costume

2008-04-29T05:12:56Z

I am learning of the lines that are frequently drawn and crossed and blurred between all tribal styles and for many different concepts (actual dance postures and moves, cues diction etc. My question is one of actual costumes: I read some where that ATS never wears coin bra without the choli (true??) and something about the pantaloons. For ATS is a standard requirement for basic costume the pantaloons and the 10 yd or circle skirt with a choli and a coin bra?

I know costuming is a display of creativity and personality and never a finished thing but rather something always evolving so I didn't think there was a standard basic costume. I haven't worked my way up to pantaloons yet, (got the 10 yd and circle skirts down and I'm working into making my choli's! (plus belts and tassels and all the fun stuff!!!) but I wasn't sure if they are required or just typical? If they are I guess I need to get cracking and brave the machine and 4 yards for a pair of them!!

Thanks!!

Jo

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Cues for turning.....

2008-04-28T20:16:10Z

Hello all-- Just wondering if someone could clarify two things for me---

The cue for a basic Egyptian with a Full turn?

And do most of ya`ll presume that barrel turns are in a set of 4?

Thanks so much-- Joy

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Egyptian full turn - help needed...

2008-04-27T22:45:11Z

Let's see if I can explain this without rambling....When doing the Egyptian full turn, I have a problem...since most traditional music is 4x8, I'm annoyed when I find myself to the front when I should be to the back, according to the music...I have 5-6-7-8 left of the count, where I would normally finish to the back so that I can go into the next step on the 1 of the next 8. I find that I do one final Egyptian to the front before changing, but this is not right according to the #7 dvd - and ATS is so logical all the time, I can't help but feel that I'm missing something. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

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spam

2008-04-26T06:06:55Z

DO NOT WANT!!!!!

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ATS inspired party games?

2008-04-26T05:22:54Z

My tribe is having an end of term party this Saturday night and we are looking to play a few party games, hopefully with a tribal twist. Anyone have any good ideas??!!! We'll have a pass the parcel with tribal goodies inside, & I was wondering about a Simon says type game ('Simon says pivot bump! Arabic!!') & maybe some kind of egg & spoon race while shimmying, or balancing a plastic sword instead of the egg & spoon thing?? Ummm, pin the tassel on the dancer??!!!

..& if you happen to be in Adelaide (South Australia) Saturday night, come on down & party with the Sacred Tribal Bellydance girls!!! ;-)

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Just If....

2008-04-25T19:29:05Z

you were someone in the UK and were throwing the idea around of maybe taking a short break to go to the US to a weekend of workshops AND you wanted more ATS than anything else, then which would you choose and why.

This is just metaphorically speaking but I do like to keep my options open.

I have seen there are many different ones but its nice to have input from people that know!

Thanks

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director's cut dvd!

2008-04-25T01:58:21Z

i got mine yesterday!!!!! woohoo! now, need to make time to watch it. i didn't know about it's release. i was cruising the fcbd.com to order music....

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Torso Twist and Circle Step

2008-04-24T20:58:48Z

Both of these moves start facing front but then turn. My question is, how much of a turn? Is it one to the front, one to the back and then return to the front (half turns)? Or 1/3 or 1/4 turns? Or if it's not fixed / set, how do the followers know how much of a turn the leader intends when she initiates the turn?

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ATS Costuming: Bra options for the larger chested goddesses...

2008-04-22T19:42:48Z

I posted this in Tribal costuming, but I suspect I may get a much better response here, since I am in the process of making a new bra... for my ATS costuming. Seriously. This is why I don't have a decent coin bra for my costuming... so maybe someone can help?

"How many coins does it take to cover the cups of a 36/38 DD bra. Hmm!!"

This could almost be a contest!!! LOL!! The winner gets a free hug, from me!!! :)

Seriously though. Here's one of the huge (no pun intended) of having a larger chest... cover bras in anything -- is an extra challenge. Coins especially.

Anyone have a rough estimate as to how many it takes to cover a 36/38 DD ... and any tips and tricks on how to do it better, easier, and holy cow... lighter??? I have almost 50 on one already and it's not even done yet.

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From Folk to Classical Tradition?

2008-04-22T13:10:36Z

On NPR last night, I was listening to an interview with Arlo Guthrie, and he was talking about musical traditions, and how there is a swing back to folk traditions in the US today. He talked about the difference between folk tradition, which is handed down verbally and evolves with each retelling, and a classical tradition, which has been codified and written down and is handed down somewhat strictly in the same way from then on.

It made me think of ATS' evolution in recent years: coming from bellydance, which is a folk tradition; and today being strictly codified to mean one very specifically documented form and format...is it becoming a classical tradition? Will dancers one day claim being "classically trained in American Tribal Style?" Will it become like ballet, where it will be a given that one must study the roots first, much like dancers usually begin in classical ballet as the roots of moving out into jazz and modern dance? What is happening today, and how will it affect ATS 10 years from now?

What do you think?

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Arms during Arabic

2008-04-15T23:40:33Z

Can someone describe what the arms are doing in Arabic? From the description on the FCBD videos (if I'm picking it up correctly), the arm above the active hip pulls back (e.g. step R and bring up R hip, while R arm pulls straight back behind the head). But the other hand also seems to be doing something--twisting so the back of the hand is to the audience and coming ever-so-slightly forwards. Am I seeing that right? Other troupes do a "both arms pull straight out to the sides" but I don't think that's what Carolena was describing on the videos... Any suggestions?

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turns for circle step and torso twist

2008-04-14T23:20:20Z

Could I have some advice on how many turns are executed with both the circle step and torso twist. We've been doing half turns with the torso twist and 1/3 turns with circle step. We heard that FCBD do half turns when doing the circle step in a duet, but wondered if this was the case?

thanks in anticipation :-)

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Kudos to ATS!!!!

2008-04-08T14:06:34Z

I just want to give a shout out to this style!!!! Awalim had to redesign our set for our show on Saturday due to one member not being able to perform and space constraints. Us stressed?? Nope, we do ATS! Our first set with the puja, and fire and sword balancing had people on the edge of their seats and it was all possible because of the flexibility of the format...we only picked out which songs we were using the day before.

Three cheers for ATS!!!

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where's the kathak in ATS??

2008-04-07T20:19:54Z

What up peeps,

In print, on videos, and in descriptions of ATS people always mention that one of the major influences of ATS, aside from Flamenco, is Kathak.

I study Bharatanayam, and granted am not an expert in Kathak (although I've seen oodles of it performed and have read up extensively on all of the major classical Indian dances), but I think I know enough to spot any sort of Indian dance influence in something, and fail to see any Kathak influence in ATS... unless one counts the Indian prayer FCBD uses. But one step does not a "major" influence make!

Where did this Kathak thing come from? Nearly all ATS groups that I know of (including the one I used to be a member of) mention this in their blubs, and I don't know why (maybe just 'cuz FCBD used it as part of their original description, so people just followed along?).

I'm not against fusion- all I do now is pretty much world fusion, and I think it would be kickass if Kathak really was a major part of ATS. I guess I just want things to be clear, so outsiders get an accurate perception of what's going on in a particular performance or dance form.

I know that Megha studies Odissi, and she's been a major force in ATS lately, so perhaps at this point more Indian stuff has made it into the ATS culture (I haven't done ATS hardcore for a couple years, so sadly I am out of the loop). But... even then, Odissi is different than Kathak.

Again, I'm not trying to put down ATS or anything like that, it's just something I've wondered about ever since I began my studies in Bharatanatyam. I just honestly don't know where the influence of Kathak is in ATS. But maybe I'm missing something??

Any ideas?

Peace,
Dani :)

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All these festivals...

2008-04-06T18:03:03Z

We have so many festivals around the country....with all kinds of different wonderful bellydance styles. But what about an ALL ATS festival? What would people think of having ATS dancers gather somewhere with FCBD doing all kinds of workshops (and other Pure ATS dancers)? I would love to gather in one place with ATS dancers from all over and dance together. That's one thing about ATS that I love so much...its a common language that we speak no matter where we're from :)

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Student zills distributor?

2008-04-03T18:51:54Z

Hello all! I am looking for a good vender of student zills--- I know we cant really post Spammy here, but if anyone has any good leads I would very much appreciate a PM!!!

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Taxeem tips

2008-04-02T01:03:46Z

Hi ladies,

I was wondering if any of you lovely gals had any helpful tips on mastering the taxeem. I have been struggling with this move for a while, I have no problems with the maya, but whenever I try to do the taxeem my brain and hips seem to battle against each other and I end up doing a Maya, even when I'm trying really hard not to - how on earth that happens I have no idea. It seems my muscles are not prepared to memorise this move, no matter how many times I stand before a mirror to make sure my hips are going the right way, chanting aloud, "bend the knee, slide the weight, bend the knee, slide the weight", and my butt seems determined to stick out. Is it just a case of drill, drill, drill???

Pip x

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ATS in Potomac Falls

2008-04-01T04:19:56Z

or around there abouts. My sister is looking for classes.

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Knees, please?

2008-03-30T22:23:51Z

(cross-posted from my tribe-blog in hopes to get an answer)

I've been digging ATS dancing a whole lot.

My knees, however, not so much.

I have a mild case of Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, so stuff likes to dislocate easily. That's part of the problem.

So I'm wondering if there are good exercises any of you do to strengthen or improve your knees (range of motion, prevention of pain, etc.)? Inquiring minds want to know.

(And I'm not doing, nor do I want to do, any Turkish drops, Brice-drops or anything anywhere near that. I do, at times, do yoga poses like the camel and a modified hero during which I'm on my knees.)

Thanks in advance.

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Rajasthani Influence

2008-03-29T15:13:42Z

On the Vol 7 DVD the Resham-ka is described as a modification of a rajasthani dance step. I know there are a few other moves I have heard this about as well.

So my question is this: Where in Rajasthan did the inspiration come from? What tribe, if any? What dance form in Rajasthan? I'm getting into Indian studies, and I'm curious what bits of India have been modified for ATS.

This may be a Carolena question, but I figured others might also be interested in the answers.

Thanks!

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Double choo choo question.......

2008-03-29T00:02:26Z

Ok....my brain hurts....

So in volume four, Carolena teaches the double choo choo arms with the arms quite high. When the right hip is bumping forward, the right arm is pulled back , framing the face and the left arm is slightly forward. When the right hip bumps back, the right arm is pushed slightly forward and the left arm is pulled back behind the head. Make sence?????

But in recent performances I have watched of FCBD the arms are different. When the hip bumps forward, the right arm is still back framing the fance, but the left arm comes down to shoulder height. When the hip bumps back, the right arm comes down to shoulder height and the left arm is pulled up and back.

Which is right?!?!?!?! I've been practicing the second way for six years now (arm down to shoulder height)! And since it's done that way in recent performances, that;s what I'm assuming is correct. :/

any imput from you lovely ATS ladies would be luuuuvvleeee.

Thanks in advance!

xjesse

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FCBD DVDs and Shipping

2008-03-28T12:23:34Z

I've got a little extra fun money set aside for the purchase of some dance paraphernelia. I went to buy Tribal Basics Vol. 5 Cues and Transitions and the shipping is ...$13.30 for the one DVD.

That is an awful lot. Is this just the going rate for all FCBD shipping now? When I bought volume 1 I think I paid closer to $8 or $10. I checked e-bay and there are older (cardboard envelope) versions available that may or may not play in some DVDs. The price is right, but I'd rather just pay the $25 for the newer version.

Is there another source for the new edition of the DVD? Otherwise, my fun money budget is caput. :/

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Propeller Turn

2008-03-24T18:56:09Z

I've seen propeller turn performed several different ways and it's all getting mucked up in my head. How do YOU execute propeller turn? What happens to the left arm? Does it stay up in the air, does it come down to the side (as I have seen BSBD do often)?

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Help!! Music!!

2008-03-20T18:21:23Z

I am sure almost positive that this topic has been brought up but I am horrible finding threads sooo my delima is this...
I need some help finding music, all kinds! What are your standards? Music you think no tribal class should be without? What are some new favorites what's out there? And most importantly where do I find it!! I am definelty musically challenged so any help would be great!!

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San Antonio classes?

2008-03-18T15:41:51Z

Hello everyone, I was directed here by my teacher. I'm going to be in San Antonio, TX next week, and I'm going to be missing a number of my dance classes, and I was wondering if there's anything out there, so I don't miss over a week of practice? (I already have a drill sheet :] )

Thanks!

Mina

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musique!

2008-03-18T14:48:04Z

I had a bit of a break - truth is I have been uninspired musically but I managed to get some fab tracks together for you:

http://canyella.podomatic.com

enjoy :)

Canyella
xx

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Sword and Baskets to Balance?

2008-03-18T14:20:31Z

So, I just paid off my credit card today!!! and have discresionary income for the first time in my life! YEAH!

And I am treating myself to balancing materials, so that I can add that to my ATS performance :):)

Does anyone have recommendations on what/where ideal balancing baskets and swords can be found, suitable for ATS dancers?

So siked - so siked!!

Let me know your thoughts?

:)

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Wet Dog.. .brrrrrr

2008-03-18T08:35:06Z

Hiya

Could someone tell me if there is a specific cue for going into a Wet Dog (ooh err) or is it the the fact that either forwards or back on 1?

Thanks!!!

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Company using Carolina's photos

2008-03-16T10:00:11Z

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/THE-TEMPLE-FLOWER

Does anyone know if Carolina authorized this company to use her photos?

Patricia

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Choochoo Arc detail

2008-03-12T21:08:48Z

Umm, I've got a question concerning a detail of the Choochoo Arc that I can never quite figure out from the video:

Is the hip supposed to keep bumping during the turn?

I've finally managed to sign in for a FCBD workshop in fall, but my restless mind just can't bear the wait until then ... ;-)

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Fast or slow?

2008-03-10T22:47:58Z

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lA6Ax5-mosA

Does this song seem more suited to fast or slow tribal?

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a quote from a student

2008-03-10T15:25:16Z

Teaching my level 1 (baby belly ats) in class this week, and we were working on 3 person formations which some of the girls had only done 1 or 2 times. It is so great to see the baby bellies out there, trying to figure out how to lead, remember the steps, transition on the right count (that is a lot to try to get right!) and frequently apologizing for 'doing it wrong". After we were done dancing, one girl in class was trying to encourage another, and saying how "we will follow you whatever you do, so don't worry about 'doing it wrong'" (Love that!) and as we were getting ready to cool down, she also said something about our dancing:

"See how cool this ATS is?? Dancing with a hundred women was amazing!" (paraphrasing but this is the jist of it)

She was referring to the fact that she had attended TribalCon and she got up and participated in the Hafla dancing on Friday night were we had a HUGE circle with everyone doing some form lead and follow of Tribal, with a huge emphasis on the ATS steps.

This made me very happy :)

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double back with half turn

2008-03-10T11:55:08Z

When FCBD or Devyani, does the double back with 1/2 turn, once you start the move doing half turns, does it continue without a cue each time you are facing front again? I was rewatching Volume 7FCBD and Megha did not address this specifically when she taught it but it looked as if once she started the move with the half turn she continued it without a cue(looking over her right shoulder)until she came back to front and did the move on both sides and changed to something else.. Is it like the Basic Egyptian with the half turn, in that once the leader starts the DB with HT, it continues, not needing a cue until the leader finishes . I hope this is somewhat clear! Thanks in advance for any help, it is a question that has come up in practice. Cindy

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X-Post: Calling all Puget Sound Dancers and Teachers.....

2008-03-10T01:26:35Z

Who's dancing and teaching in the Puget Sound area? Mainly ATS and Tribal/Gypsy Fusion. There is a very good possibility that I will be in the area for several months before the end of this year. I would like to get in some classes or just dancing with friends around there on a regular basis. Whaddya say? Any good recomendations? Thanks!

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Reverse Taxeem - arms?

2008-03-09T06:37:16Z

I have a question regarding choice of arm movements with a reverse taxeem.

I usually have my arms to the side and do a outward floreo. I floreo the hand with the hip that's moving up and out. I've seen Carolena do out floreos above her head (vol. 4) when performing the reverse taxeem. Okay to do arm undulations? This doesn't come naturally to me but had a student ask. -lm

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and another one on ASWAT!

2008-03-05T19:34:13Z

ok, there is a move with Wendy and the other girl (sorry I forgot her name again, which is terrible cause I remember dancing with her in San Francisco one day!)
it is on this video at 1:45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_qi_My1yIU&feature=related

They are facing in and do the ASWAT with half turns and then the one with a flourish, facing each other, so how do they know it is not turning into the ASWAT circle? Can you only do the ASWAT circle with 3 or 4 people? Or is it cause they were facing each other starting the ASWAT that it is not seen as a circle?

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arabic with arms1 & arms2 turn gradually

2008-03-05T19:27:55Z

i hope i can explain myself. i've tried searching on tribe but many of the threads go off on tangents. i'd like to know fcbd-ats answer.

in my notes from gs when executing an arabic turning gradually (around self) with either arms 1 & arms 2 i've noted that it only turns CCW (counterclockwise). however, with arms above head or at sides one may turn CCW or CW (clockwise). will someone confirm this for me?

thanks,
laurie

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turkish shimmy with arms and turn

2008-03-05T14:43:38Z

Hi, sorry if this question has been asked before.

My group are working on this move and have a question about when you're turning in a circle. When someone wants to take the lead facing the front and leaving the circle, do you always do this on the 5 as in 1234 turn, turn and then face the front on the 5? Or can you finish the cycle of turn turn then step forward and back to 8 counts and face the front on the one beat? Is there any specific move you do to break out of the turn? We noticed on volume 7 Carolena was doing the arabic or finishing the turkish shimmy facing the front.

Its late, I have a hungry baby who needs my attention so I hope this makes sense. Its a great move and so fun all spinning in a circle!!

Emily

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I Love ATS Shirts...

2008-03-03T06:14:44Z

Ok. So apparently a few people want shirts.

So here's my question...

Should I keep the original design, and just put it on black shirts?

Or...

Change the design and use that (red text on black).

I'm open. I personally like the original much better, and think it'll go fine on a black shirt. When I change the colors of the heart and flowers, I think it takes away from the orchids.

But input, input, input!!

We'll do this. We'll get it up on Cafe Press, and I'll make them cheap, as I don't want any money off this. I just want a shirt, LOL!!!

:)

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Thinking of forming an ATS dance practise group in L.A. area

2008-02-28T18:30:24Z

I'm looking for some like-minded women in Los Angeles with a working knowledge of basic ATS to get together to rent a rehearsal space on a semi-regular basis to just get together and dance, maybe a couple times a month. This would not be a class, so you'd already have to have knowledge of the terminology, formats, steps and cues. We'd be splitting the cost of the room rental by however many participants there are. This is just in the thinking-it-over stage; I have a studio in mind in Burbank/North Hollywood, which seems pretty central and freeway-close, but open to other ideas, depending on everyone's locations.

Anyone up for it?

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Moving Meditation Notes/Text

2008-02-28T01:40:19Z

Hey all you fabulous ATS dancin' goddesses n' gods...

Quick question.

Is there a text format of the Moving Meditation? I'd
like to give it to my students. They're learning it,
but would like it on paper too, for their notes.

Much love!
MB

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2ups3downs

2008-02-25T23:18:47Z

do you just go into this movement or is there a cue? it seems slightly confusing with reach and sit, at least the first hip move, so how do you distinguish from that one?

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Yaaaaaaaaaaye hubbie got me FCBD dvd for my birthday :-)

2008-02-25T17:54:44Z

It was my favourite birthday pressie, he did so well, I saved the page on favourites on the pc, so he could just follow the link etc...

He wound me up though, saying he didn't remember looking for Bellydance dvd's, and seriously believed that he never got me it, as he can be forgetful sometimes..

Was sooo happy yesterday when I opened it, can't wait to start practising :-)

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"where you ats?" billboard

2008-02-22T23:43:57Z

i was wondering how many out there have seen the billboard, "where you ats?" for a cell phone company? the first time i saw this was while i was driving through san francisco a few weeks ago. thought it would be fun to find out "where you ATS?"

i ats in los angeles, ca

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Military Zil Pattern and Steps

2008-02-19T22:08:20Z

What steps do you usually do with this pattern? Are there any that you only do with this pattern?

Thanks!

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Lost thread? - Students wanting to perform

2008-02-17T21:34:45Z

Hey there! There was a thread a little while back - posted by Mimi F, I *think* - about students wanting to perform (perhaps too early).

There was some great advice on there about setting up student salons and some good comments regarding classes getting too performance focused. I would really like to re-read the thread, and have a friend who is also interested in taking a look at some of the responses, but I just can't seem to find it!

I was pretty sure it was in this group, and Valizan - I know I saw your name turn up in some of the comments.

Does anyone remember where this thread was? Has it been deleted?

*fingers crossed*

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ATS vs. ITS question: tips for a new teacher?

2008-02-17T03:17:34Z

I know this has been discussed a lot in online bellydance communities but I'm not finding the answer I'm looking for.

In the past I've studied ATS with a set of teachers who all learned around the same time and attended each others classes. I've recently relocated to an area with new teachers and new "generations" of dancers and vocabularies. Recently I have been learning from teachers who incorporate the ATS I'm familiar with with other fusion and solo techniques that has simply been described as "tribal". I myself have an opportunity to teach for the first time, and wish to teach ATS as I learned it, however I know the sources for some things I've learned, especially things I've learned more recently, are not actual ATS vocabulary (but are, obviously still part of a group improv setting).

I guess I need clarification on the "rules" of teaching and under what term I should classify my classes: ATS or ITS?

Thanks!

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What's this song? (crosspost)

2008-02-13T21:46:14Z

I found this song on my computer, I love it and I have NO information about it. And I want to use it! I'm hoping this link will work.
www.themusichutch.com/listen.php
Does anyone recognize this song? If so, can you give me information. Title? Artist? Composer? Album?

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I want...

2008-02-11T02:09:54Z

... and I <3 ATS t-shirt.

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teaching ATS to beginners

2008-02-10T01:33:44Z

for the teachers out there. How do you teach the concept of ATS to beginners?

I am not talking about the actual movements in ATS but about the whole concept of leading and following.

In my beginners class there are always a few people that have done ATS before, so I use them to explain the group formations and leading switches in circle and fade,... but for beginners leading is a real scary subject. How do you get your students ready for leading?

I tried to have like a set combination (i.e. egyptian basic, then go to arabic, then to choo choo and pivot bump and then back to egyptian basic) While they have the security of a vast routine, they have the decision of how long they stay into each movement. Often they make mistakes and go to movements that I didn't mention and then I encourage that to encourage the improv element of ATS. This works quite well I find.

But do you guys have other exercises to improve their leading skills and to explain the different formats to the beginning students?

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Oh man...

2008-02-07T03:38:59Z

Wish me luck!!... I have my first performance with zills in a week! I have been performing for almost two years now and zilling since I first started dancing (started with the little gold zills out of the FCBD Art of Bellydance pack, now I have Saroyans) :-) But I have never combined the two! I have finally, finally gotten to the point where I can put my hands on autopilot and dance at the same time, comfortably, with minimal mistakes. I'm performing in a week with my friend Katie (former troupemate) and her friend Maelyn (her first performance). I hope it goes well... I'm excited! I think it will definitely add to the dance.

I'll be zilling to the song "Ya Habibi" by Mohammed el-Bakkar (such a HAPPY song!).

Jenni :-)

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Other dance forms

2008-02-05T21:41:25Z

So, what other dance forms do you study OR would like to study, in addition to ATS bellydance?

I'm reading a book right now by La Meri called "Total Education in Ethnic Dance". I have always loved other ethnic/folk dance forms, but this has reawakened my interest - and now I've got a few that I'd love to learn!

1 - Scottish Country Dancing - My great great great great grandparents were from Scotland & Ireland (McCarthy), so I would love to learn this as part of my cultural heritage. Plus, it just looks like a good time!

2 - Indian classical dance - Can't pick one, they're all beautiful and unique. I was excited to find a Bharatanatyam teacher in a town one hour away from me (according to a listing on a webpage), but I emailed the person and they haven't gotten back to me, so I think it was a dead listing. :-(

3 - Bhangra - ....'nuff said. :-)

Jenni

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Dueling Duet Format Question

2008-02-02T00:14:25Z

I'm trying to teach my Level II girls Dueling Duets but we keep having a format question. Are the two duets in traditional leader-follower formation (follower is behind the right shoulder of the leader), only turned inwards facing each other?

If you're looking at this formation straight on from an audience perspective it seems as if the duet down stage right should have the follower on the left side of her leader, instead of traditionally behind leader's right shoulder so that she is not hidden by the leader and secondary follower. (Hope this makes sense).

Haven't been able to make it up to class lately to ask in person. Many thanks in advance!

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To Shoe or not To Shoe....

2008-01-24T15:02:04Z

That is the question! I've always wondered if wearing some kind of shoes, be it ballet slippers, china flats, herme's sandals, jazz shoe, etc., is part of the tribal costume? Do you wear them in class? Is it better to learn this dance barefooted?
Wearing shoes for outdoor events, restaurants, clubs, etc. for the beginner who may not be used to having something on their feet if they're used to being barefoot in class. It is a different feeling esp. in spins.

I personally can dance with or without shoes, I currently teach barefoot but my students have the choice right now whatever they want to wear or not wear, but I will be teaching at a Flamenco studio soon that has plywood floors, unvarnished (for now) and until I can get the flooring or carpeting, can shoes be an option to avoid the obvious splinters?

(I apologize as I will be reposting this on other tribes as well) Thank you my tribal sistahs!

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What's that music?

2008-01-24T04:51:21Z

In the video on Youtube titled "Devyani improv with FCBD" - what is the music? I know it but I can't place it.
Thanks!

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Reverse Turn

2008-01-21T18:08:46Z

Could someone describe the Reverse Turn to me? I see it listed as one of the steps you need in your vocabulary in order to take an intermediate FCBD workshop at Tribal Cafe, but I don't see it listed in either the FCBD Volume 1 & 4 dvds.

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flourishes with shimmies in a circle?

2008-01-21T17:41:07Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRmBCHt4dDw&feature=related

in this video, at 7'15'' Carolena cues the shimmies in the circle, and the three dancers start doing flourishes during this section. Is it just random? As in, whoever feels like turning turns? And can you do this during other movements as well?

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arabic 123

2008-01-17T17:50:48Z

I found an explanation about this on tribe but had a few more questions.

So the arabic 123 is an 8 count movement, consisting out of 2 arabics for the first four counts and 3 chest drops/undulations on 5-6-7 and coming back up on 8.

So the cue for this is 2 arabics with the arms coming down on to shoulder height. I was wondering if these 2 arabics are the two arabics right before the 3 chest drops (so part of the arabic 123, i.e. count 1-4 of the movement) or if they are 2 arabics prior to the arabic 123 so after these 2 arabics you do an aditional 2 arabics part of the movement followed by the 3 chest drops.

Secondly: do the arms STAY down onto shoulder height for the rest of the movement, until you go to a different movement like egyptian basic or something? This seems so, but on the DVD volume 4, the arms are either up or one arm front one arm up so I got confused. Do the arms come back up after the cue.

and last thing: when you turn with the arabic 123 is it a gradual turn? or is there a certain number of times that you do the arabic 123. With the circle step and the torso twist with turn, I remember that it is either 3 or 2 sets per turn, depending if the follower on the left turns 1/3 turn or 1/2 turn during the turn and thought it might be similar for the arabic 123?

Hope this all makes sense, I find it hard to explain myself without showing on video.

thanks

Hilde

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travelling in a circle with choo choo

2008-01-17T16:49:17Z

I remember asking ages ago how this works as you have to travel in the opposite direction as normal. I got an explanation, but I just saw a video online where it clearly shows what is happening for those interested:

you can do flourishes (isn't on any of the dvd's) by raising your right and and bringing in position 2 and do a quick turn, you can do these as many as you want until you want to either go to a different move (like they do in the video, they shift to a shimmy traveling in the other direction of the circle) or actually taking the lead by making 1.5 turn instead of 1 turn while doing the flourishes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRmBCHt4dDw&feature=related

in case people were wondering

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Body Wave Question

2008-01-16T21:14:34Z

I posted this on fcbd tribe with no response, so I thought I'd try here...

The body wave...chest lifts, then chest pushes back thru the heart, rolling down the spine, then recenters...its the recentering I have a question about....in the drill section of the dvd (fcbd) the recentering kind of has an appearance of a pause before lifting the chest again. In the performance part of the dvd it appears as if there is no recentering and the chest lifts as the hips are in the tucked forward position, so there's more of a continuing undulation like a snake.

gads!! As I re-read this I hope I'm making sense!

Thanks for any clarification!

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Men's class?!

2008-01-16T18:54:59Z

Truth or Rumour?

Someone has told me that FatChance will soon be/is currently offering a men's class in ATS. This would be a change from the previous "no boys allowed" policy.

This would also give me a great big reason to fly westward.

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circle step

2008-01-12T19:06:40Z

Hi everybody, more questions I'm afraid. I was wondering if I could have some clarification on the circle step and how many turns you do. On volume 4 Carolena says that you can do either quarter turns or three turns. Our troupe learnt that you do a half turn followed by two quarter turns and that you can do half turns with a partner doing the circle step ( we haven't practised that yet though). We're trying to keep things reasonably simple with not too many variations and I wondered what FCBD currently do whe they turn the circel step. It's such a beautiful move... now we've got the hang of the feet :-)

Emily

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ATS girls in Sweden

2008-01-11T23:18:24Z

Especially in Gothenburg and about? Are there any?

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What does your troupe practice look like?

2008-01-11T14:33:54Z

At Tribal Pura I asked Carolena how often a troupe needs to practice in order to perform ATS well. She said at the very least 2 to 2 1/2 hours once a week.

So... What do you work on at your troupe practices and how? Do you practice more often or longer than this? Do you take time to just socialize and get to know each other?

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Re-Shamka help please

2008-01-11T08:54:23Z

8 counts travelling forward with hip bump and hand flicking. Got that but, on VOL.7, the first 8 counts travelling forward are always followed by 2 egyptians, travelling back, except for when dancers are facing, then they cue an egyptian with 1/2 turn.

Is the re-shamka just the 8 counts forward or is it the whole combo with the Egyptians? There's no explanation of the Egyptians on the DVD.

OR

Can the 8 counts forward with the hand flicking be followed by an alternative travelling move backwards for 8 counts, for example arabic or arabic shimmy, shimmy...?

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Where should beginners start?

2008-01-08T02:13:52Z

Do you recommend students who have no belly dance training at all to start with Oriental belly dance before starting ATS or do you think it's okay for them to start with ATS without prior belly dance experience?

Thanks!
Chandani

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Cover Ups

2008-01-05T04:32:23Z

Ok, another ATS question.

I understand that it is recommended that ATS performers where a veil over their costumes as their cover up. The veil easier to get on and off over the turban and jewelry. However does anyone still where a cover up instead of the veil?

Have you ever performed at at show as an ATS dancer and been required to wear a cover up instead of the veil covering?

Thanks,
Chandani

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Tim Rayborn's music

2008-01-04T15:18:00Z

I got a $50 VISA gift card for Christmas and the first thing I bought was FCBD Vol. 4. Now I'm looking at Tim Rayborn's music on www.magnatune.com, and I love it. I've felt really drawn to the oud lately, maybe because besides bellydancing as a creative outlet I also play the mandolin. I'm thinking about getting "The Path Beyond". Do any of you use his music for either practice or performance? Which albums or songs do you like in particular?

My boyfriend just got me Solace's "Nagari" for Christmas, too, so I'm loving all the new music to dance to. :-)

Jenni

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Another nit-picky name question

2007-12-30T01:57:25Z

Is it "American Tribal Style" or "American Tribal Style Bellydance"? If the latter, and, if you shy away from the term "belly dance", is it then "American Tribal Style Oriental Dance?" (now that sounds weird...) Apparently, I have nothing better to do with my time this afternoon than to obsess about how to label the ATS playlist in my IPod...

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arabic with hip shimmies with arms + fade (FCBD)

2007-12-20T08:12:23Z

I have a question about the sequence of this step:

this is what I understand from watching the videos:

first you start with arabic hip shimmies
then you add the half turn step with arms coming front and out to the side. You can do this as many times as you want and can either go to the arabic hip shimmies with arms + flourish

arabic hip shimmies + flourish: you look over right shoulder (you have to be in arabic hip shimmies with half turn and arms to do this) for the first 4 counts and the second 4 counts you make one turn on the spot
QUESTION: can you only do this once, before going to the fade? or can you do this as many times as you want as well? Do you HAVE to go to the sequence of the fade once you include arabic hip shimmies with flourish?

Arabic hip shimmies + flourish + fade: leader steps back on 1 after doing one (or more?) arabic hip shimmies with flourish section
QUESTION: After the fade, can the new leader go to a different movement, or do the arabic hip shimmies + flourish again on the spot OR does she have to do the fade straight back? Can the new leader also go into the arabic hip shimmies with flourish in a circle? IF the new leader fades straight back can the old leader (that is now leading again) go to a different move or does she have to go to the arabic hip shimmies with flourish in a circle?

Arabic hip shimmies + flourish + in a circle:
QUESTION: does there have to be a fade first, or can the leader go into the circle combo right away?

I guess my MAIN question is: When I see this performed on the video it seems always: arabic hip shimmies for 8 counts, then 1 set (8counts) of Arabic H.S. with arms and half turn, then 1 set of A.H.S with arms and flourish, then 2 fades back and front of AHS with arms and flourish and then the AHS with arms and flourishes in a circle. Is it set like that, or could any of them be removed or repeated out of this sequence

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arabic hip twist

2007-12-19T14:00:29Z

another question for you ATS ladies and gents....

Our troupe is going back over all the moves up to vol 4 to try and make sure we have all the details right as we tend to do a lot of things individually in our troupe and are trying to be more unified.

We're reviewing the arabic hip twist at the moment and watched Volume 4 in our last practise. I just wondered if there is an official explanation of how to do the arabic hip twist with a 1/2 turn and if FCBD still also do this move with a 1/4 turn. On the dvd, Carolena is demonstrating the turns but not explaining at the same time so it would be great to have a few words on it to help clarification on the move.

Emily

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Class act

2007-12-18T14:24:44Z

this is a Youtube of my latest class here in Malta

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmv1TdwcJ0M

I hope you dont mind me posting it here?

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after spinning

2007-12-18T13:21:47Z

after spinning, I find it really hard to follow the movements of whoever is leading. Is there a movement that is set after the 4 spins?

Same for partner spinning, this is even harder cause there is no set leading position here and we end up just doing a different move than one another

how to resolve this?

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chico four corners

2007-12-17T07:11:02Z

I love it when with this movement people cross each other and do the move back to back, then facing each other, but I don't know how to get to this move. I presume you need to be in the chico 4 corners to start this movement but how do you cue the partner set where you cross each other back to back?

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25 yard skirts....

2007-12-15T10:37:35Z

Where should I order from??

FatChance? Tribe Nawaar? Moondance? Peacock Moons?

I realllllllllly want one! I just can't decide who to get it from because I haven't seen any of their products in person. I'm more inclined to order from FCBD because I know Carolena orders quality products. What do you think? decisions.....decisions..... ;)

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after arabic hip shimmies with armsand turns in a circle OR after turkish shimmies with arms in a circle

2007-12-14T15:39:48Z

After we did the circle with both of these movements, I find it hard to switch lead.

With the first one (ASWATcircle) the 2 turns happen on the 5,6,7,8 as the 1-4 is a arabic hip shimmy with turn as preparation. So on the 5-8 you are actually making two spins, how do you come out of this and take front left position? Also I noticed that because the others are still spinning that they end up moving a lot faster than whoever is taking over the lead so they bump in to her :)

Second one: turkish shimmies in a circle: the turns are here on the 1,2,3,4 and on the 5-8 it's turkish shimmies with arms so it is easier to take over lead here, as you are not spinning for the last 4 counts. But I noticed that in videos of Fat Chance people finish the last 4 counts with arabics to take over lead position... how come?

thanks

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Fade vrs traveling backwards

2007-12-14T00:11:32Z

Hmmm, we're a troupe of three and we recently started rehearsing with another troupe of three on an informal basis.

When it's just the three of us and the lead dancer(front left) wants to do a fade she takes one quick step backwards and that's enough cue for the center back dancer to step forward and take the lead. (or vise-versa)

When it's just the three of us and the lead dancer wants all of us to travel backwards she travels backwards an a normal speed and we all follow.

But with this big group that's not working. The two intentions are getting all confused! We're using a basic stagger formation.

Any advice? Are there clearer cues we can be giving? Is this the sorta thing you have to talk about before a performance, "Halfway thru the song I'm going to give Jane the lead by fading back"...?

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formation of five

2007-12-12T03:09:26Z

Hi there,
I'm in a troupe that has six members, but we usually have five members at class at the moment. We drill FCBD moves and improv in chorus with formations of twos and threes. We really want to be able to improv as a five as well and are experiencing the obvious difficulties with sight lines when we do.

Can anyone suggest ways for us to work as a formation of five more effectively? Anyone got any creative ideas for performance also in terms of making the best of a group of five?

Thank you

Emily

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color question

2007-12-06T00:54:41Z

would gold brocade choli top be in line with ATS costuming? I am fairly new to this and found one that would be a nice fit, if it falls into the costuming guidelines. Thanks!!

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ATS Music Recommendations

2007-12-05T18:28:52Z

Hello, all! I'm looking for recommendations of music (artists or albums) to dance ATS to. I have the CD that comes with the FatChance box set and Barnes and Noble, but that it's for ATS. Help, please. I wanna add CDs to my Christmas wish list! Thanks in advance.

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Arabic Shimmy Help?

2007-11-29T02:18:49Z

My Arabic shimmy is hopelessly uneven and uninteresting. Problem one: the shimmy. I can't keep it going on the right hip when I step right and forwards. I think it's trying to figure out how to keep that right knee bent enough so the hip can keep moving while I step on to it, but no amount of mental preparation seems to help. Problem 2: the undulation. I like to start the undulation with a nice chest lift, but I seem incapable of of pulling off that and the stepping and the shimmying. So basically, the whole move looks like a step forwards, then do the bottom half of an undulation while shimmying. Repeat. Does anyone have any words of advice or encouragment?

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ZillZill SpinSpin

2007-11-28T01:06:02Z

Does one continue to zill while spinning in Calibrated Spins?

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10 yards vs 25 yards

2007-11-27T17:41:06Z

is it just a preference? I just got a 10 yard skirt then found a 25 yard one. i am pretty hippy, which would be best? Thanks.

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What's that move?

2007-11-25T18:52:54Z

Hey ladies!

I was watching this video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f_qi_My1yIU
for the millionth time, and clued in to a few details I never noticed before.

At 4:53 Wendy cues into a move that sort of looks like half a camel walk into a body wave...

I like the move, but I never seen it, nor seen the camewalk cued with those arms! Can someone tell me what that move is?

Thanks so much!

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Just in Case....

2007-11-24T17:29:15Z

Just in case tribe does fold, I've started a network over on Ning for ATS dancers. I'm still figuring the whole ning thing out, and it appears i've created not a discussion group, but a whole social network, so feel free to join me!

I'm going to try to copy and past some of the threads from this tribe over there, so we don't lose all the good information that's been posted here!

http://atsdance.ning.com/

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ATS other than FatChance

2007-11-17T22:28:26Z

Are there many other ATS groups in San Fran besides Fat Chance? I know there´s tons of tribal and every spin off of tribal you can imagine, but ATS specifically. :)

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Video of fade switch?

2007-11-13T09:17:51Z

I was just reading the recent thread on fading in a staggered four formation, and the older thread about fade switching.

Can anyone direct me to a video of a fade switch in a performance setting? Where after a fade the new leader shifts to the outside to assume the lead position? I'd like to see how this is executed in practice.

Thanks much!

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my holiday dates-ideas needed

2007-11-10T16:51:02Z

Yipee!!, I have been given two dates that I can cme over to the states the first one is 3.3.08 for about 10 days or I can come over 21.7.08 again for about 10 days. I dont care where I go aslong as I get to do some serious dancing, and if there is a festival on at the same time all the better!
suggestions please, but only within those dates please, as I have no control over them ad cant change them even if I wanted too.

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